Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance
Are you talking NT only or install in general?  On unix all you need is a
decent X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?, etc).
 
I've been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never
been in any of our computer rooms.
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From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:05 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

OK, terminal services?

I agree that install is an exception.  It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in front of the host.

    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    Sent:   Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:45 AM
    To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject:        RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance

    This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X access.
     
    "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

    Christopher R. Spence
    Oracle DBA
    Phone: (978) 322-5744
    Fax:    (707) 885-2275
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 AM
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    Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance
     
    What's wrong with telnetting in? 
    -----Original Message-----
    From:   Steven Lembark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
    Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20 AM
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    Subject:        Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance
     
    -- "Smith, Ron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
    > Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to the computer room.
    > They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going to
    > the server itself.  This includes Unix and NT server running both Oracle
    > and SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere.  I am
    > trying to put together a list of things we might need to do that would
    > make remote admin difficult as well as taking longer.  If you have any
    > ideas I would appreciate it.
    How about "Your Work"?
    Last time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access to
    the command line.  So long as you don't want to start or stop the
    database this probably won't have any effect.
    Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df".  You can, perhaps,
    memorize the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to the
    free space reported by Oracle each morning.
    Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is the
    pager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?"  Make
    a point of paging them every time you need something from the shell,
    day or night.  That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a list
    of the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should have
    done for themselves at 3am...
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