Not so. I have never installed using the host. We only have text
console terminals attached to our host boxes, so we can't do an X install
on the host. Have your SA or data center person copy the cd's to a place
on the server and run it exporting your display using ssh or telnet to
your local X display (I run Linux, but works with X-Win, and other
emulators as mentioned in other posts). As for NT, I administered
servers at remote buildings using pcAnywhere or VNC at my last employer.
As for physical access to the servers. Do you (as a DBA) absolutely need
it? Not want, not feel slighted at not having access, not being
inconvenienced, I'm meaning REALLY NEED the access. Considering other
options (telnet, ssh, VNC, pcAnywhere, etc.), possibly not. On the other
hand does your data center staff want to be called in for every midnight
implementation to be ready to handle hardware access should it be
necessary? Do they want to be brought in on every pager call you get
just in case it requires some sort of physical access? You as DBA having
hardware access is more for convenience so you don't need to wait on them
to get an emergency restart done ... and they don't have to be called in
every time you are. Why bring in two when one will do?
This all goes back to the earlier comment about watching how strongly you
protest. It may have negative impacts in later requests for
telecommuting opportunities.
Rodd Holman
Original Message dated 9/26/01, 8:05:17 AM
Author: "Koivu," Lisa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance:
OK, terminal services?
I agree that install is an exception. It's nearly impossible if you
aren't sitting in front of the host.
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This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install
8.1.6 without X access.
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<P>Not so. I have never installed using the host. We only have text
console terminals attached to our host boxes, so we can't do an X
install on the host. Have your SA or data center person copy the cd's
to a place on the server and run it exporting your display using ssh or
telnet to your local X display (I run Linux, but works with X-Win, and
other emulators as mentioned in other posts). As for NT, I
administered servers at remote buildings using pcAnywhere or VNC at my
last employer.</P>
<P>As for physical access to the servers. Do you (as a DBA) absolutely
need it? Not want, not feel slighted at not having access, not being
inconvenienced, I'm meaning REALLY NEED the access. Considering other
options (telnet, ssh, VNC, pcAnywhere, etc.), possibly not. On the
other hand does your data center staff want to be called in for every
midnight implementation to be ready to handle hardware access should it
be necessary? Do they want to be brought in on every pager call you
get just in case it requires some sort of physical access? You as DBA
having hardware access is more for convenience so you don't need to
wait on them to get an emergency restart done ... and they don't have
to be called in every time you are. Why bring in two when one will do?</P>
<P>This all goes back to the earlier comment about watching how
strongly you protest. It may have negative impacts in later requests
for telecommuting opportunities.</P>
<P>Rodd Holman</P>
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<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Original Message dated 9/26/01, 8:05:17
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<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Author: "Koivu," Lisa
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<P STYLE="margin-bottom: 0in">Re: RE: Physical access to servers for
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000ff"><FONT FACE="Georgia">OK, terminal services? </FONT></FONT>
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<P><FONT COLOR="#0000ff"><FONT FACE="Georgia">I agree that install is
an exception. It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in
front of the host. </FONT></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">From: </FONT></FONT></B>
<FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">Christopher Spence
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]</FONT></FONT> <BR><B><FONT SIZE=1><FONT
FACE="Arial">Sent: </FONT></FONT></B>
<FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:45
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<FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L</FONT></FONT>
<BR><B><FONT SIZE=1><FONT
FACE="Arial">Subject: </FONT></FONT></B>
<FONT SIZE=1><FONT FACE="Arial">RE: Physical access to servers for
maintenance</FONT></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2><FONT FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000080">This doesn't
work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6
without X access.</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2><FONT
FACE="Arial"><FONT COLOR="#000080"> </FONT></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT FACE="Times New Roman"><FONT COLOR="#000080">"Do not
criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their
shoes."</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE=5><FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS">Christopher
R. Spence</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE=2><FONT
FACE="Comic Sans MS">Oracle
DBA</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE=2><FONT FACE="Comic
Sans MS">Phone:
(978) 322-5744</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE=2><FONT
FACE="Comic Sans MS">Fax:   
(707) 885-2275</FONT></FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT
SIZE=2><FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS">Fuelspot</FONT></FONT><FONT
FACE="Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE=2><FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS">73
Princeton Street</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE=2><FONT
FACE="Comic Sans MS">North,
Chelmsford 01863</FONT></FONT><FONT FACE="Arial"><BR> </FONT></FONT>
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