You Can add my name also. Venkat -- On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 04:35:17 Boivin, Patrice J wrote: >Gee, I thought I was the only one. > >Regards, >Patrice Boivin >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des syst�mes >Technology Services | Services technologiques >Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique >Maritimes Region, DFO | R�gion des Maritimes, MPO > >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- >Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 5:15 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >Subject: RE: RE: database administration questions > >or as Marlene, Jim and I not so jokingly ask in DBA 101 (if you can >answer yes to most of these, you have what it takes to become an Oracle >DBA): > >Are you able to function at top efficiency with little or no sleep - >possibly for days at a time? > >Do you like getting phone calls in the middle of the night that aren't >a wrong number? > >Do you enjoy being the "invisible" person in your organization, that >is, until something goes wrong? > >Do you enjoy life under a microscope? > >Do you enjoy long lines of people outside your door? > >Do you enjoy spending time filling out electronic iTARs in the off >chance that a human being will actually pick them up, read, and respond >to them in a "timely manner?" > >Do you love solving puzzles that make no sense? > >Is your favorite weekend meal Twinkies and Coca-Cola, and do you view >pizza as a seven-day-a-week healthy meal plan? > >Do you love being on a perpetual steep learning curve? > >Do you enjoy the challenge of moving between different computer >platforms? > >Do you believe that you'll have enough time to teach yourself <fill in >the blank> (possible choices: XML, 9i, PL/SQL, Built-in Packages, Java, >etc.)? > >--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish. >> >> For those that: >> >> * live for challenge >> * are afraid of nothing and not intimidated by complexity >> * make that, 'love complexity' ;) >> * can't forget about a problem until it's fixed >> * willing to RTFM til they drop >> * design and execute tests to understand how things work >> * RTFM some more >> * drive technology. Hey, there's more to a good DBA than databases. >> * did I mention RTFM? >> * learn from their mistakes >> * admit they make mistakes >> * RTFM to minimize mistakes >> >> All others need not apply. >> >> Jared >> >> "No guts, no glory" ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> "Kimberly >> >> Smith" To: Multiple recipients >> of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <ksmith2@myfirs cc: >> >> tlink.net> Subject: RE: RE: >> database administration questions >> Sent by: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> 12/27/01 09:00 >> >> AM >> >> Please respond >> >> to ORACLE-L >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You need to find some new cooks then. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> >> >> In our shop we've tried the cross training tact. Problem was that >> those >> who >> accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the >> kitchen. >> Damn!!! >> >> Dick Goulet >> >> ____________________Reply Separator____________________ >> Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 12/26/2001 4:50 PM >> >> I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle >> programmer >> but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss >> whether >> I >> could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need >> to >> maintain my current systems. Now, I am a database >> administrator-cum-programmer. I support turnkey projects, automate >> processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain >> database >> & support Oracle Applications etc. >> >> Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots >> of >> interesting things in the process .... >> >> New Bees >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kimberly Smith >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> Subject: RE: database administration questions >> >> If you work on a site like I do you could always >> cross >> train. I am always >> looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup. >> Right >> now >> I use one from >> the Unix team and one from the development team. Its >> the >> only way I get to >> take vacations and what no. Check with your current >> DBA >> and >> see if they are >> willing to train you while you are off doing your >> 'real' >> job. Of course, >> there are some folks who are worried about job >> security (or >> are just >> assholes) >> and they would not give you the time of day. You >> don't >> want >> to learn from >> those folks anyway. The excuse, "I'm too busy" is >> not >> really valid either. >> Training someone allowed me to offload some of my >> work. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:30 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> >> >> With your current background, your more likely to >> land a >> job >> as a network >> administrator LONG before you'll end up in a database >> position. Access is >> still >> looked on as a single user system and frankly I >> haven't run >> into any large >> scale >> applications that use it, period. One of my current >> tasks >> is working with a >> forecasting package that states in the manual that >> Access >> should only be >> used >> for the demos. Any other application of the package >> should >> use Oracle or >> DB2. >> Also a SPC (Statistical Process Control, for those >> who >> don't >> know, don't ask >> further) package we're evaluating (actually two of >> them) >> won't work with >> Access >> even for the demos. Therefore, I'd suggest staying >> with >> the >> networking >> world. >> It will be around as long as database administration, >> if >> not >> longer. Your >> already trained and certified, and getting a Cisco >> certification is no small >> feat. If you really want to move into database >> admin, your >> probably looking >> at >> 2 to 3 years of learning and smaller paychecks as you >> pay >> your dues. >> >> BTW: A database restore usually takes a lot longer >> than >> fixing a network >> outage, >> to boot. >> >> Dick Goulet >> >=== message truncated === > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Send your FREE holiday greetings online! >http://greetings.yahoo.com >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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