OK, from the responses, here's The Plan:

1)      Get beer.  I prefer Guinness or Goose Island.  Done.

2)      Get Oracle Perf Tuning 101.  Done.

3)      Get more beer.

4)      Beat up on some test DBs, and work on real live DBs to engrain that
class material into the surviving brain cells (see Step 1).  Sorta done with
this one, but I need more.  The 22 DBs here at work and 1 at home ought to
help!

5)      Get more beer.

6)      Go to Oracle conferences.  I need to go!!!!

7)      Get more beer.

8)      Hit the web, preferrably with beer in non-mouse hand.  (Wisconsin
twin-can beer hat optional)

9)      Go to Internals class and actually understand and learn from it.
Yay!

10)     Get lots more beer.

11)     Actually do some work here.


Sounds good folks.  I think I'm on the right track (sans beer at work, of
course), with my Oracle course work completed over a year ago, and some DBA
"experiences" under my belt.  Time to plunk away at more DBs!

Thanks!   :)

Rich Jesse                        System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]           Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA
President, Beer Ale Lager Lovers Society
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Rich,

The best Oracle training I've ever had by far is "playing around" with a
small test DB on a laptop or PC.  Stress it, hurt it, recover it, tune it,
etc., etc.  When done in conjunction with one of the fine books mentioned by
others on this list - even better.

I've only had one official Oracle training course - in the spring of 1989.
It was 4-1/2 days of RDBMS v5, SQL*Forms and RPT/RPF.  Since then I've
attended some of the "mini" courses at IOUG, ODTUG, Open World, etc. - nice
little "hits" of the latest technologies.  I "studied" for my Oracle8 OCP
exams by working through Jason Couchman's book and beating up an 8.0.5 DB on
my PC - learned a hell of a lot.

My on-going study plan for Oracle skills boils down to "Beating, Browsing
and Books".
 - Beat up a test database
 - Browse fine Web sites like Steve Adams' IXORA (and beat up the DB)
 - Buy and read good books (and beat up the DB)

I think I've learned about as much as if I'd sat in a bunch of classes - and
saved a pile of money.   ;-)

Jack

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Jack C. Applewhite
Database Administrator/Developer
OCP Oracle8 DBA
iNetProfit, Inc.
Austin, Texas
www.iNetProfit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(512)327-9068

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Sent: 07 February 2002 21:07
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So, there I am.  I've taken the main Oracle courses -- Intro to SQL, DBA
(Oracle 7!), Backup & Recovery, Network Admin, and Perf Tuning.  Now where
do I go for more Oracle training?

This is sparked by a recent perceived lag in one of our new databases.
We've tracked it down to a possible hot block or two, but I never used X$BH
or V$LATCH_CHILDREN in any of my Oracle classes.  And I *know* I'm far from
being ready for an Internals class.  So how do I get from here to there?

education.oracle.com doesn't seem to have a whole lot other than Internals.
Or is that where I'm at now?

Confused and no beer.

Rich Jesse                        System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]           Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA
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