Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager that negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore, and it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something, I would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:38 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Web Licensing means that you use the DB for applications that are accessed through the internet, NOT INTRANET. Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 12:08 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users > > Rachel - By Web license, do you mean the unlimited-user CPU-based > licensing? > Thanks. > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 3:05 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > you need to be careful if you are also using databases whose contents > appear on the web, as Oracle will want you to use a web license > (extremely expensive) even if the data is not directly accessed but > appears on the web in static pages generated from the Oracle database. > > > --- Stephane Faroult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Smith, Ron L." wrote: > > > > > > We have been asked to gather statistics on the number of clients > > using > > > Oracle. This is being done to determine if we have sufficient > > licensing. > > > We have about 100 instances to monitor. > > > > > > Has anyone done this? Any ideas on what "Concurrent users" might > > mean to > > > the majority of people? > > > > > > We have both Oracle 7 and Oracle 8. > > > > > > Ron Smith > > > DBA > > > Kerr-McGee Corp > > > > > > > Well, I have just been working on this for one of my customers last > > week. The obvious thing is to query V$SESSION at regular intervals > > (dbms_job can help) and what you can do is store the result through a > > database link to a single instance. Where it was tricky was that we > > wanted to identify 'system' processes (easy, except that job > > processes > > are marked as 'USER', which is debatable), and (that's where the snag > > is) processes which are the results of a connection through a > > database > > link. The logic is that a database link is initiated by a 'normal' > > connection - for which the full-blown licence is already paid. So > > they > > should not exactly count as much as regular connection; and if this > > is > > not a good argument, then it is probably possible to reduce their > > number > > by shifting around applications. Ultimately we could apply Larry's > > favorite concept of 'single instance' (anyway I have always found DB > > links messy). > > My trouble was that nothing, but human knowledge, can tell whether > > the > > connection comes from a database link or is genuine (if somebody has > > a > > way, please share !). All the user information (machine, program, > > module, action ...) comes from the initial connection and is > > propagated. > > I have solved this (not fully satisfactorily) by having a table > > automatically inserted with unknown (machine, program) pairs and > > manually updated to say 'If we see this program on this database, > > then > > it comes from a database link' - or 'anything coming from this > > machine > > must come from a database link'. Added something for connection from > > HTTP servers, although I doubt that those will be spontaneously > > discussed during the negotiation. > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Stephane Faroult > > Oriole Ltd > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Stephane Faroult > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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