In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there is the 
Named user license and the CPU license.  CPU allows an unlimited number of users.  
Named has a limited number of users.  Now, it has always been my personal experience 
that nobody really knows what a user is.  Ask 10 different Oracle personnel what a 
"user" is, and you will get 10 different answers.
  For example, we support a 911 center.  An Oracle-based application displays the 
caller's information on a screen to the call taker.  If you look in our database, you 
will see one user - it is the connection made by the software that displays the 
caller's info.  The app maintains one connection and displays the data on the 
appropriate screen.  Oracle is trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". 
Give me a break!  At best, the call takers might be the users.
  Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also.  See 
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
  Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.

Jay

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Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hello Dennis

We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
> 
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 


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