Chris,
From Oracle's store site:
Named User: is defined as an individual authorized by you to use the programs
which are installed on a single server or multiple servers, regardless of
whether the individual is actively using the programs at any given time. A non
human operated device will be counted as a Named User in addition to all
individuals authorized to use the programs, if such devices can access the
programs. If multiplexing hardware or software (e.g., a TP monitor or a web
server product) is used, this number must be measured at the multiplexing front
end.
Now with your 911 center, if your using a backend processor to refresh the
screens then all of your screens are in fact users. I know, kind of overkill,
but we've had to count each and every bar code scanner we had on the assembly
line as each one is a "user". End result, we went with CPU licensing. Fewer
items to count (CPU's) and ended up cheaper as well.
Nothing like the bear taking a large hunk out of your back side! OH, that
HURTS!!!!!
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Grabowy; Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2/20/2002 12:03 PM
I don't think it was Oracle telling you that, it was the sales guy trying to
get his vacation paid for....
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In our latest discussions with Oracle, it is my understanding that there
is the Named user license and the CPU license. CPU allows an unlimited
number of users. Named has a limited number of users. Now, it has always
been my personal experience that nobody really knows what a user is. Ask 10
different Oracle personnel what a "user" is, and you will get 10 different
answers.
For example, we support a 911 center. An Oracle-based application
displays the caller's information on a screen to the call taker. If you
look in our database, you will see one user - it is the connection made by
the software that displays the caller's info. The app maintains one
connection and displays the data on the appropriate screen. Oracle is
trying to tell us the the 911 callers are the "users". Give me a break! At
best, the call takers might be the users.
Apparently there are (or were) Term licenses also. See
http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO61415,00.html
Rest assured - as soon as you figure it out, they will change it.
Jay
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Adary - Wow that is not good! Has anyone else encountered this situation?
Does the licensing fee have a name? Any indication if it differs between US
and non-US licensing?
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hello Dennis
We operate here on a site license that cover our internal users and servers.
About a month ago we talked with oracle about a database that will be
connected to
our internet site.
They come back and said that we need a separate license for this and our
regular site
license cover only INTERNAL use.
You need a separate license if you use the DB VIA internet.
I do not know if it is named or CPU or whatever.
Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wed, February 20, 2002 3:43 PM
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> Subject: RE: Oracle Licensing - Concurrent users
>
> Can anyone provide more details on "Web licensing"? I asked our manager
> that
> negotiates the Oracle licensing and he was only aware of Named and CPU
> (formerly UPU) licensing for unlimited users. I checked at Oraclestore,
> and
> it only shows Named and Processor licensing. If we are missing something,
> I
> would like to avoid a nasty licensing surprise.
> Dennis Williams
> DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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