Just make sure it's documented that the original idea is NOT yours :)
--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don, > > I agree with Yechiel. You do, after all, work for this guy, and by > extension, the company. You need to learn to pick your fights. In > the > larger picture, does it really matter that much? Are your kids at > home > going to be disappointed in you if you build this POC? Take the > advice of > most of the members of this list. Build this thing as quickly as > possible, > and deliver it to the users. It sounds like they : > 1). will not use it, so you will get to throw it away in a year > 2). will use it, and will be disappointed with it and stop using it > - in > which case you get to throw it away in a year > 3). once it is built, re-design it the way you want (in a new > schema) and, > when the original fails, announce that you have been "studying the > matter" > and have a better version waiting to implement. You will become the > hero > all the way around. Your boss will be glad that he delivered the > first > "warehouse". He will be happy that, when problems arise from the > first > version, that you are "on the spot" with version #2 to solve his > problems > and make him look good again. > > In the meantime, go home, kiss your wife, hug your kids, pet the dog, > read a > good book, go for a walk, throw a baseball with your kids, go to the > movies > with your wife, and realize that, like food poisoning, this too will > pass. > > Hope this helps. > > Tom Mercadante > Oracle Certified Professional > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 3:23 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Hello Don > > In a more serious mood: DO IT. > I also had some arguments with my boss over the years and except > for 2-3 cases (in 20 years) that I told my boss that I will not do > something > and if he wants it he can do it himself, my motto was if he wants to > waste > resources for something that is obviously an error let him waste it. > He wants you to waste time and disk space on a system that the users > will not use: waste your time and the resources. He is management and > he is the one who calls the shots. > Just document everything to cover yourself later. > > Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wed, February 27, 2002 8:48 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design. Help! > > > > I've lost patience, my temper, and I'm about to quit a job because > the IT > > manager has decreed that we will have "his" data warehouse running > within > > 24 hours, and we will use his design. > > > > 1 - We are NOT to use any kind of views, not even materailzed > views. > > 2 - we are not to do any computations, summaries or rollups > > 3 - we are to have everything in one table > > 4 - "the" table name and column names will be meaningful to any > clerk > > 5 - we are not to "start" or "snowflake" designs. "That's just a > bunch of > > > > high power talk." > > 6 - all users will be trained to use MS Access to get at "their" > > data. (These are users that were just converted off from "green > screen" > > teminals within the last 45-days, to Windows 98 with 64k RAM.) > > 7 - We are not to just copy the legacy transactions. > > 8 - We are to load into "an" Oracle table, all legacy transction > data > > because "we don't want to limit how or what a user will look at" > > 9 - It is not necessary to talk with the users to see what data > they want > > to look at, or the atomic level. "They are smart enough to fighure > this > > out on their own. We just need to provide them the data." > > 10 - There shall be no long term maintenance required by "the" dw. > > > > > > Any ideas on how to deal with this situation? > > > > For tomorrow, I've done a CTAS from a materialized view that we > created to > > > > support one departments known requirements. > > > > > > Don > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: Don > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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