Hi Yechiel,

Thx.  The hardest thing for me to do is step back and let management micro 
manage technical issues about which they know nothing, and apply resources 
where they see fit.  After a group therapy session with the cobol folks, we 
were all in a much better mood.

Did we meet the 24-hour deadline with the single table design the mngr 
wants?  We still don't know, because the IT mngr postponed the demo and is 
taking PTO until next week sometime.



At 2/28/02, you wrote:
>Hello Don
>
>In a more serious mood: DO IT.
>I also had some arguments with my boss over the years and except
>for 2-3 cases (in 20 years) that I told my boss that I will not do something
>and if he wants it he can do it himself, my motto was if he wants to waste
>resources for something that is obviously an error let him waste it.
>He wants you to waste time and disk space on a system that the users
>will not use: waste your time and the resources. He is management and
>he is the one who calls the shots.
>Just document everything to cover yourself later.
>
>Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> > From: Don [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wed, February 27, 2002 8:48 AM
> > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:      Manager decrees "his" data warehouse design.  Help!
> >
> > I've lost patience, my temper, and I'm about to quit a job because the IT
> > manager has decreed that we will have "his" data warehouse running within
> > 24 hours, and we will use his design.
> >
> > 1 - We are NOT to use any kind of views, not even materailzed views.
> > 2 - we are not to do any computations, summaries or rollups
> > 3 - we are to have everything in one table
> > 4 - "the" table name and column names will be meaningful to any clerk
> > 5 - we are not to "start" or "snowflake" designs.  "That's just a bunch of
> >
> > high power talk."
> > 6 - all users will be trained to use MS Access to get at "their"
> > data.  (These are users that were just converted off from "green screen"
> > teminals within the last 45-days, to Windows 98 with 64k RAM.)
> > 7 - We are not to just copy the legacy transactions.
> > 8 - We are to load into "an" Oracle table, all legacy transction data
> > because "we don't want to limit how or what a user will look at"
> > 9 - It is not necessary to talk with the users to see what data they want
> > to look at, or the atomic level.  "They are smart enough to fighure this
> > out on their own.  We just need to provide them the data."
> > 10 - There shall be no long term maintenance required by "the" dw.
> >
> >
> > Any ideas on how to deal with this situation?
> >
> > For tomorrow, I've done a CTAS from a materialized view that we created to
> >
> > support one departments known requirements.
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
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