OK.  That does it!

My first experience with computers involved pushing one up against the wall
to block the cooling ducts so that it would overhead and it could be beaten
at tic-tac-toe.  Theoretically impossible, but the amazing thing about
idiots is that they're so ingenious.

A more substantial early experience involved an IBM 71x (we really did have
a core meltdown once) with an ingenious TOS (Tape Operating System), none
of these clunky punch cards for us, please!  I was coding in Coursewriter
II.  If you wanted to delete some bad code you did a DELETE M-N, where M
was your starting line and N was the ending line.  Interestingly enough, if
you fat-fingered it and transposed M and N (so that N was smaller than M),
the DELETE command would start deleting lines and M looking for N (which,
of course, it would never find).  It would keep asking for new tapes and,if
the tape operators were on their toes, you could destroy weeks worth of
work in a few minutes.  Our "printers" were IBM Selectrics hardwired to the
mainframe.  About 1 page a minute and extraordinarily noisy.

But it was wicked cool, state-of-the-art, and I'm not sure that I've had
more fun with computers since.



                                                                                       
    
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30 years?  Wasn't that involved in sliding wooden beads on a metal stick?

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>-BTW It so happens that this month is the month that
>-30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers

Punch cards perhaps!!

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Hello Don

You will be suprised but the folks around here usually
come to the dba before, after and during designing .
They know the value of an experienced dba (> 20 years).

BTW It so happens that this month is the month that
30 years ago (1972) I started to learn computers
and am doing damage since then.



Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> >A very true set of statements on all sides.  I've done as much & am
> >in
> the
> >process once again.  I just wish that once in my life as a DBA I did
> >not
> have to
> >cleanup someone else's mess.  Now if you all don't mind, I'm off to
> >the
> hardware
> >store for a new shovel!! :-)
> >
> you mean they would actually consult you when the application was
> being
> designed, so you could help provide a design that was efficient and easy
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> yea, right.  not even in my dreams.;-)
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