We use Netbackup along with an STK 9710.  The reason I mention this is that
with applications that have many tablespaces such as Oracle Financials the
backups take much longer regardless of the total size of the database.  Each
datafile is considered a separate backup and takes a couple of minutes to
get started.  With hundreds of datafiles, this can add over an hour of
overhead to a backup.  I prefer fewer tablespaces and larger datafiles if
possible.

Ron Smith
DBA
Kerr-McGee Corp


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Hi


The assumption is that every user of this system will have totally unique
requirements. There will be no data sharing and no commonality of purpose.
As far as alternatives I am not even thinking about multiple instances.
Other alternatives include - many schemas and one tablespace, or many
schemas and an arbitrary number of tablespaces, or an arbitrary number
of schemas matched to an arbitrary number of tablespaces, or one schema
for all users using fine grained access control (thanks for the idea
Jack it sounds quite useful).

Peter: All users would be equal and no critical systems will be housed
on this instance, but backup and recovery is definitely complicated by
having so many data files and tablespaces. By the "opposite direction"
do you mean only one tablespace.

Jared: The benefit is isolation. As much as possible keep the users from
affecting each other. Performance effects are unavoidable but separate
tablespaces would keep one user from gobbling up all the available
disk space. Will definitely have to watch out for the data dictionary
filling up the SYSTEM tablespace and bringing everything to a screeching
halt.

Ben 

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Hi

Our university wants to set up a server that will provide groups
on campus with a standard set of services for web hosting, data
collection or whatever they want to do. As much as possible each
user should have their own isolated chunk of the server.
An Oracle database will sit in the background to provide whatever
database services they need. My thought is to go with one instance
with a unique schema, including separate tablespaces/datafiles, for each
user.

Some of the pros for this are:
- easy set up for new users
- easy software upgrades
- simplified tuning, backups, monitoring, auditing
- user isolation, especially disk space usage
- multiple instances would use far more memory

Some cons are:
- everyone must use the same release of the software
- database down time affects everyone
- might run into system maximums, for example max. number of datafiles
- an enormous SYSTEM tablespace

Has anyone had to this kind of thing? Any comments or suggestions?

TIA,

Ben




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