Thanks Jack!

Tamas

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Hi,

>From the online generic doc's version 8.1.7


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Data Definition Language Statements and Roles
A user requires one or more privileges to successfully execute a data
definition language (DDL) statement, depending on the statement. For
example, to create a table, the user must have the CREATE TABLE or CREATE
ANY TABLE system privilege. To create a view of another user's table, the
creator requires the CREATE VIEW or CREATE ANY VIEW system privilege and
either the SELECT object privilege for the table or the SELECT ANY TABLE
system privilege.

Oracle avoids the dependencies on privileges received by way of roles by
restricting the use of specific privileges in certain DDL statements. The
following rules outline these privilege restrictions concerning DDL
statements:

All system privileges and schema object privileges that permit a user to
perform a DDL operation are usable when received through a role.

Examples:

System Privileges: the CREATE TABLE, CREATE VIEW and CREATE PROCEDURE
privileges.

Schema Object Privileges: the ALTER and INDEX privileges for a table.

Exception: The REFERENCES object privilege for a table cannot be used to
define a table's foreign key if the privilege is received through a role.

All system privileges and object privileges that allow a user to perform a
DML operation that is required to issue a DDL statement are not usable when
received through a role.

Example:

A user who receives the SELECT ANY TABLE system privilege or the SELECT
object privilege for a table through a role can use neither privilege to
create a view on another user's table.

The following example further clarifies the permitted and restricted uses
of privileges received through roles:

Example: Assume that a user is:

Granted a role that has the CREATE VIEW system privilege

Granted a role that has the SELECT object privilege for the EMP table, but
the user is indirectly granted the SELECT object privilege for the EMP
table

Directly granted the SELECT object privilege for the DEPT table

Given these directly and indirectly granted privileges:

The user can issue SELECT statements on both the EMP and DEPT tables.

Although the user has both the CREATE VIEW and SELECT privilege for the EMP
table through a role, the user cannot create a usable view on the EMP
table, because the SELECT object privilege for the EMP table was granted
through a role. Any views created will produce errors when accessed.

The user can create a view on the DEPT table, because the user has the
CREATE VIEW privilege through a role and the SELECT privilege for the DEPT
table directly.

**************************


HTH


Jack


 

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:-O Thanks. Its funny. Could some one please point me to some online docs
(OTN)? Just to see the logic behind this - for me unwanted - feature?

Tamas

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Hi




To create a view or procedure the rights have to be granten to the person
directly and not through a role
So yes, quite normal behaviour (maybe not wanted)


Jack






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Hi,

Is it normal that

connect x/x
select id, name
from y_schema.table1;

execuites fine, but

connect x/x
create or rpelace view v_myview( id, name) as
select id, name
from y_schema.table1;

fails? User X has grants on  y_schema's table1 through a role only.

TIA,

Tamas Szecsy
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