So, do you remember the other top 10 items?? Robert
-----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L please n it was also mentioned at the Oracle of Oracles closing session, in the "top 10 things I learned in San Diego" :) --- Cary Millsap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Might have been Dave too, but I mentioned it in my "Misunderstandings > About Oracle Internals" talk at IOUG on Tuesday... > > > Cary Millsap > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.hotsos.com > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:58 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > n > > I think it was Dave Ensor... > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 6:30 PM > > > > Hi Connor, > > > > Somebody (I think it was Cary) mentioned your little PL/SQL > procedure > that > > will provide any required CHR. So you are famous, even if you were > not > > present :) > > > > And yes, without seeming to migrate to the CHR camp, there is some > merit > in > > what you are saying. However, I would suggest that tracking > 'normal' > delta > > values of 'cache buffer chain' gets, misses, spins and sleeps from > > V$SYSTEM_EVENT/V$LATCH, as well as deltas of 'table scan rows > gotten' > vs > > 'table fetch by rowid' would be a better 'ratio' than the CHR which > will > > only serve to feed a myth. The former would give you some > indication > of > LIO > > (and the stress it causes on the system) and the latter will > indicate > raw > > requirements that were met but were the ones that drove PIO.... As > for > me, > I > > detect changes in the following SQL and page out to an on-call DBA > when > some > > set limits are exceeded: > > > > select event, count(*) from v$session_wait > > group by event; > > > > This does show the 'current' bottleneck and I still remain true to > the > > calling of OWI!! > > > > John Kanagaraj > > Oracle Applications DBA > > DBSoft Inc > > (W): 408-970-7002 > > > > Grace - Getting something we don't deserve > > Mercy - NOT getting something we deserve > > > > Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and Mercy that is > freely > > available! > > > > ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my own and not > those > of > my > > employer or clients ** > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:44 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: Anything new from IOUG? + "OWI" Born!! > > > (Anjo/Mogens, please > > > n > > > > > > > > > I still like to recommend the buffer cache hit ratio > > > because its so easy to please customers with an > > > improvement - A plsql routine to generate any desired > > > hit ratio on a running system is freely available for > > > download from my site... a consultants dream! :-) > > > > > > But, serious hat on temporarily, there IS still a use > > > for the buffer hit ratio as a "delta" measurement. > > > What I mean by this is that you measure it every 'n' > > > mins/hrs/whatever and store it. When it displays a > > > massive dip or a massive increase (ie something out of > > > the ordinary for *your* system), then whilst it > > > doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong - it DOES > > > mean that something has changed in your system, which > > > is a good prompt to do some investigation.. > > > > > > hth > > > connor > > > > > > --- John Kanagaraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > This is from a first-timer at IOUG, so I may be way > > > > off here. > > > > > > > > A lot of marketing blurb was thrown out at IOUG > > > > (probably a lot less than > > > > usual, and *much* less than Oracle OpenWorld in any > > > > case!). As for tools, > > > > many vendors were flogging the same ones, improved > > > > versions maybe. One which > > > > did make us say 'wow' was StorageXpert from Quest. > > > > IMHO, this is an > > > > excellent tool, engineered by our very own Gaja. I > > > > believe details are at > > > > the Quest site at www.quest.com. If you have EMC > > > > disks and are facing > > > > performance problems, I believe there is the best > > > > there is. (Or even if you > > > > have other storage devices, it would still give you > > > > the hotspots). > > > > > > > > And NO, I do NOT work for Quest, nor have Quest > > > > stock! > > > > > > > > And for others, I believe this was a major turning > > > > point and an eye-opener > > > > as far as the Wait Interface goes (This has > > > > (un)officially been renamed to > > > > OWI as per Kirti's slides :-). Most attendees 'saw > > > > the light' as far as CHR > > > > (Cache Hit Ratio) goes, and there were two distinct > > > > camps after the first > > > > few days - the 'CHR' and 'OWI'. No prizes for > > > > guessing who won the day! The > > > > massive number of defections and the absolute > > > > absense of > > > > CHR-based-discussions at the Performance round > > > > tables was clear evidence > > > > that OWI is here to stay! (Mr. R might still rewrite > > > > that book sooner than > > > > later!) > > > > > > > > About 20 Listers met for dinner on Sunday night (and > > > > again in a larger group > > > > at the SeaWorld bash). The meeting was characterized > > > > by geek-talk such as > > > > 'Can you fit us all in one extent?' i.e. 'can we all > > > > sit at one table?'), > > > > 'Please coalesce' - 'please move in so that more > > > > people can fit into the > > > > aisle seats'. > > > > > > > > Oh Boy, that WAS a lot of fun! > > > > > > > > John Kanagaraj > > > > Oracle Applications DBA > > > > DBSoft Inc > > > > (W): 408-970-7002 > > > > > > > > Grace - Getting something we don't deserve > > > > Mercy - NOT getting something we deserve > > > > > > > > Click on 'http://www.needhim.org' for Grace and > > > > Mercy that is freely > > > > available! > > > > > > > > ** The opinions and statements above are entirely my > > > > own and not those of my > > > > employer or clients ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Mark Leith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 4:58 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > Subject: Anything new from IOUG? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All that recently attended IOUG. > > > > > > > > > > If you don't already know - I sell "tools" for > > > > Oracle. > > > > > (delete this now if > > > > > you want to DG! ;P) > > > > > > > > > > I was just wondering if anybody at IOUG had any > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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