Hi Rafiq,
I'll let him know :). From the great, great hospitality shown by Steve to Jonathan, Cary, Anjo, Howard, me and others this week here at the Database Forum I think it's safe to say that Steve is fine - but busy. Steve is a very impressive guy in many ways. But I guess he has to prioritise in order to make ends meet. He's also extremely helpful, so I don't think he's quitting lists like this one without being forced to :). Maybe - maybe - Steve will attend the Database Forum in Denmark in September. But he certainly will run the 3-day Miracle Master Class 2003 in January 2003 in Denmark. That should rock! Best regards, Mogens Mohammad Rafiq wrote: > Mogens > > How is Steve Adam himself? Like other listers I am feeling his > absence very much from this list. You may request on my behalf(or on > behalf of other listers like myself) that he must participate in this > list... > > Regards > Rafiq > > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 09:18:20 -0800 > > Maybe it's time to provoke a bit :-). > > Situation: I'm sitting here in Steve Adams' house (about 7 meters away > from the IxOra server, which is SO small - just like the LITTLE mermaid > in Copenhagen - very disappointing), and Anjo, Cary, Jonathan and the > rest have gone to bed. > > Whiskies available on the oak table: Bowmore and Ardbeg. > > Provocative Thoughts (aimed at generating discussion, please): Basically > a P4 processor can run circles round a Unix processor today (in other > words: Unix processors are loosing the battle). A customer today would > get most bang for the buck by bying Intel instead of Unix processors. > The problem, of course, is that you can only choose between Windows and > Linux on the Intel platform. If - this is no longer a choice - you could > choose Solaris on Intel, you would get so much bang for the buck that > nothing could compete with it. If Intel could handle many processors > that would be interesting, too. > > I think Unix processors are dying. I didn't like it when VMS died > (because it's the best operating system that was ever built). But it > died. Now what? > > Mogens > > Hemant K Chitale wrote: > >> Aah ! You _are_ looking at moving out of NT. >> Why I don't think it is an enterprise class platform >> >> 1. Much poorer memory management [2GB, memory leaks etc] >> than Unix. >> 2. Cannot scale beyond 4 CPUs. >> I AM surprised that you run a 450 users SAP >> application on 4CPU, 2GB on NT. Try that with >> Oracle Applications ! >> 3. Any patch (e.g. the security patches that come out >> from Microsoft) requires a reboot of the server. I can >> understand OS patches requiring a Unix reboot but a >> patch to MSIE/Outlook/IIS on the same NT-box as the >> database requiring a reboot of the server ? Unacceptable. >> 4. I don't know how good Online Backups are on NT. >> >> Hemant K Chitale >> http://hkchital.tripod.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Saturday, 25 May, 2002 4:33 AM >> >> >>> 1) Not pulling any legs. That's what we run. >>> >>> 2) We have a few reasons to switch to another platform. >>> I'm lobbying for Solaris with Veritas Database Edition. Many >>> good reasons for doing so, but I'm beginning to have my >>> doubts about financing it. >>> >>> One of our current projects is to put in place an enterprise >>> class backup and recovery system. The current one is lacking >>> in several respects. >>> >>> One of damagement's questions: "What happens if we do nothing?" >>> >>> Another was "What's the ROI?" >>> >>> PHB's abound. >>> >>> Jared >>> >>> On Friday 24 May 2002 08:03, Hemant K Chitale wrote: >>> >>>> No way ! You're pulling a lot of legs >>>> [and hurting a lot of egos who take pride in >>>> pointing out that NT is _not_ an enterprise-class >>>> platform, me included]. >>>> >>>> Hemant K Chitale >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Sent: Friday, 24 May, 2002 8:00 AM >>>> >>>>> How about 250 Gig, 450 users on SAP 4.0B? >>>>> >>>>> 4 Cpu's 2 Gig Ram. >>>>> >>>>> Stop making me defend NT!! >>>>> >>>>> Jared >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Disser, Arno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> 05/23/2002 10:23 AM >>>>> Please respond to ORACLE-L >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >>>>> >>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>> cc: >>>>> Subject: RE: so when did you switch from NT to unix for >>>>> >>>> oracle >>>> >>>>> Here are my 0.02EUR >>>>> >>>>> Turn this reasoning around: Why would anyone use NT for a serious >>>>> >> Oracle >> >>>>> DB-server? >>>>> Okay, for some minor development perhaps, but for an production >>>>> environment? >>>>> >>>>> b.t.w., ever considered a switch to VMS? >>>>> >>>>> Arno Disser >>>>> -- >>>>> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >>>>> -- >>>>> Author: Disser, Arno >>>>> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >>>>> San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing >>>>> Lists >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >>>>> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >>>>> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >>>>> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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