speaking as a netware/dos/windows person since oracle 
5, the 8.1.7 oui for windows 2000 didn't seem that 
bad, but it did have a "lowest common denominator" 
type feel to it. 

on an "old" PII/450, it took about 45 minutes to 
install just the 8.1.7 db pieces (with no "starter" 
database), including a fast read through the install 
docs while running the installer.

my far bigger gripe is about the lack of clear, 
concise, basic (standard) documentation on how to get 
all the pieces working in a typical client-server 
environment, particularly in comparison to using 
oracle 7.3

the list of 397 1/2 various platform and non-platform 
specific document sets containing bizarre maze of 
cross references, and all the product renaming and 
renumbering complexity wierdnesses is a major pita.

anyone have a good oracle tech support document id# 
that just has a straight foward description of what is 
needed for doing a basic client-server set up of 8.1.7 
with the "6i" developer stuff (on windows 2000)?

ha haa haaa haaaa haaaaa haaaaaa!!!


On 9 Jul 2002 at 12:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Date sent:              Tue, 09 Jul 2002 12:47:19 -0800
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> What I wouldn't give for "./orainst /c" right now.
> 
> <RANT>
> 
> Where is the productivity and ease of use of the #$%^#@ OUI when it takes
> hours and hours just to load up all the java crap!  

...


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