gee, I always do the Oracle install, that way, I have no one to blame
but myself when it is wrong

and that way I have much more control over the install

--- Yechiel Adar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All this ranting is nice but consider the following:
> 
> 1) You do not install oracle on a server so much.
> In fact, in our shop this is done by the technical
> people, not the DBA. The DBA got the machine with
> oracle already installed and just build the database.
> 
> 2) When you have to do cross platform development
> Java is the tool to save on resources.
> 
> 3) Any machine that's need to run a production database
> should be strong enough to run Java ok.
> 
> Yechiel Adar (not an oracle employee)
> Mehish
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> 
> 
> > Me thinks this was done to check off some boxes to indicate that
> Oracle is
> > "easy" to install and maintain (OEM).  These are boxes that SQL
> Server had
> > checked off (I guess) for a long time, and Oracle didn't.  And
> Oracle can
> > check the Java box a few dozen times now.  "Oracle is now easier
> for your
> > (in)experienced IT shop to setup and maintain.", Oracle sales guy
> rants
> and
> > raves.  "And you don't need to pay for those over-priced
> experienced DBAs
> > anymore!!!", he exclaims.  CIOs eyes glaze over...
> >
> > I am getting tired of W2K, and yearn to get back to Solaris....or
> any
> *NIX.
> > Sigh.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:24 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Oh the system does.  That's a given.  There is no need to java-fy
> > everything.  There was a perfectly good working installer.  Not
> everyone
> > wants to jump through the hoops of setting up xservers and watching
> all
> your
> > RAM consumed by the JRE.
> >
> > Perl and Perl TK are multi-platform, small footprint, etc.  OEM 1.6
> still
> > had mostly Tcl/TK pieces and parts and ran fast and reliably.  Not
> so for
> > OEM 2.x.  Give me a command line back for installs.  That's not too
> much
> to
> > ask, right?
> >
> > Scott Shafer
> > San Antonio, TX
> > 210-581-6217
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ray Stell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:48 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: Re: runInstaller
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > You might look at silent mode install, Note:73510.1
> > >
> > > I have found that on really hot machines oui is a screamer.  It
> could be
> > > your system needs a facelift.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 12:47:19PM -0800,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > > > What I wouldn't give for "./orainst /c" right now.
> > > >
> > > > <RANT>
> > > >
> > > > Where is the productivity and ease of use of the #$%^#@ OUI
> when it
> > > takes
> > > > hours and hours just to load up all the java crap!  Piece of
> garbage
> is
> > > > enough to make me want to go back to 7.3.4 - and shoot the
> idiot who
> > > thought
> > > > up java...
> > > >
> > > > </RANT>
> > > >
> > > > Thankyou.  I feel better about hating 9iAS now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Scott Shafer
> > > > San Antonio, TX
> > > > 210-581-6217
> > > >
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