Yep... I figgur' we are hitting about 8 G's about now...
Just wait for 10i and watch us top 10 G's!!!

RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
Mastering Oracle8i  (Sybex)

Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and 
your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' 
crazy.



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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:20 PM
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um no, I mean they are redoing it AGAIN!!!!

I love Oracle, it provides me with an ever and ever steeper learning
curve....


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> YUP,  Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a couple of
> months ago. 
> Seems that nothing is sacred anymore.  BTW: Installer changes too,
> now you need
> a full multimedia terminal, 4 channel audio & VR headset recommended.
>  :o)
> 
> Dick Goulet
> 
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date:       7/22/2002 9:53 AM
> 
> you can see how often I use the GUI :)
> 
> OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from a
> fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that Oracle's changing
> it all again.
> 
> T
> --- April Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button.... geez 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > Good rant. :)
> > 
> > I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is "I click on this
> item
> > on the GUI..." (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory
> behind
> > that little radio button)
> > 
> > 
> > --- mkb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Ok, I need to vent a little.
> > > 
> > > Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over
> > > the phones for a mid level DBA position.  Someone with
> > > about 2-3 years experience.
> > > 
> > > I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I
> > > think that I ask particularly tough questions.  The
> > > questions that I ask potential candidates are soley
> > > based on what is on the resume.  So I figure if
> > > someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their
> > > resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly
> > > intelligent conversation about these topics.  No such
> > > luck!
> > > 
> > > What really frustrated me, and what I really want to
> > > get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to,
> > > had a real good concept of hot backups.  Forget about
> > > recovery.  I asked each and every candidate who
> > > claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high
> > > level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care
> > > about syntax, just give me the mechanics.  The answers
> > > I got were completely off base, baffling and
> > > frustrating.  Some of these folks claimed to have 5
> > > years experience!!!
> > > 
> > > 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how
> > > these are done...'  (But it says on your resume you've
> > > done this???)
> > > 
> > > 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the
> > > datafile to tape...'  (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not
> > > how a hot backup is done, right?)
> > > 
> > > 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup
> > > starts, it is written to the dump file.'  (Huh? What?)
> > > 
> > > 'During this time, everything is written to the redo
> > > logs and not to the tablespace...'  (You've been
> > > reading one of those books, haven't you?)
> > > 
> > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in
> > > backup mode.  Simple enough, right?  Not one of them
> > > got it right.  Not even close.  Didn't have clue as to
> > > what I was talking about.  Fair enough, you don't
> > > know.  Well how about a simple recovery scenario.  I
> > > asked every candidate how they would do an online
> > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in
> > > use.  No ideas.  Not even close.
> > > 
> > > I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this
> > > list?  Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as
> > > knowledgeable as you guys?  Perhaps I'm asking too
> > > much?
> > > 
> > > Rant over.  Thanks for listening.
> > > 
> > > mkb
> > > 
> > > 
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