Rachel, now THAT must have been funny as all hell!
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L "and if Rachel were to become a Nun"???? My mother would start sitting shiva, because as far as she would be concerned, I'd have died :) I did love the interview I gave once: Me: Okay, so last few questions. How do you learn about Oracle? Interviewee: Oh, I read the manuals, read the Oracle-l (I can see the light dawning) you're ...... Rachel Carmichael --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The interview (exerpts from some of my actual ones, and then some > made up) > > We are in my cube. I've studied the resume for Mr. Morias, who is a > Portuguese national who's degree is from University who's name I > can't > pronounce and who's credentials I can't verify. He is a brand new > OCP. > > Me: Good day Mr. (looks again at resume, I have a short term memory) > Morias. > > Interviewee: Oi ai senhor, esta bom encontraa-lo. > > Me: Sir, I didn't understand you, please try again.. > > Interviewee: Sorry sir, I forget I need speak English. Good day sir. > > Me: So, let's start our interview, shall we. Tell me what a rollback > segment > is please. > > Interviewee: It is the method by which Oracle database store all > database > changes. It is used during recovery. > > Me: (Figuring we have made a Jr. DBA type mistake here) Ok... and > tell me > about a redo log. > > Interviewee: It used to provide consistent image to database users. > Oracle > has automated redo in Oracle9i. > > Me: Are you sure that you don't have these kind of turned around? > Redo logs > are used for recovery, rollback segments are used for read > consistency. > > Interviewee: No, you are mistaken, I know it is as I described. I've > been a > DBA for 10 years, I know what I am doing. > > Me: Ok... so, when you have a problem with a database, what do you do > to > solve the problem? > > Interviewee: I go to ORACLE-L and ask Rachel, she know everything. > > Me: And if she is on vacation or not responding to questions? > > Interviewee: I wait for Rachel to return. > > Me: And if Rachel were to become a Nun and never grace ORACLE-L > again? > > Interviewee: I check out Lazy DBA, Mike Ault is there. > > Me: AND if the Internet were unavailable? > > Interviewee: (thinks for a second) I call Oracle? > > Me: What about the manuals? > > Interviewee: Oracle has Manuals? I've never seen them. > > > > > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP > Oracle Database Architect > CSX Midtier Database Administration > Author > Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002) > Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press) > Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex) > > Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck? > Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I > guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and > your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' > crazy. > > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:54 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > you can see how often I use the GUI :) > > OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from a > fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that Oracle's changing > it all again. > > T > --- April Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button.... geez > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Good rant. :) > > > > I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is "I click on this > item > > on the GUI..." (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory > behind > > that little radio button) > > > > > > --- mkb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ok, I need to vent a little. > > > > > > Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over > > > the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with > > > about 2-3 years experience. > > > > > > I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I > > > think that I ask particularly tough questions. The > > > questions that I ask potential candidates are soley > > > based on what is on the resume. So I figure if > > > someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their > > > resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly > > > intelligent conversation about these topics. No such > > > luck! > > > > > > What really frustrated me, and what I really want to > > > get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to, > > > had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about > > > recovery. I asked each and every candidate who > > > claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high > > > level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care > > > about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers > > > I got were completely off base, baffling and > > > frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5 > > > years experience!!! > > > > > > 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how > > > these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've > > > done this???) > > > > > > 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the > > > datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not > > > how a hot backup is done, right?) > > > > > > 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup > > > starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?) > > > > > > 'During this time, everything is written to the redo > > > logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been > > > reading one of those books, haven't you?) > > > > > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in > > > backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them > > > got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to > > > what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't > > > know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I > > > asked every candidate how they would do an online > > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in > > > use. No ideas. Not even close. > > > > > > I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this > > > list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as > > > knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too > > > much? > > > > > > Rant over. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > mkb > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > > > http://health.yahoo.com > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > -- > > > Author: mkb > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) > 538-5051 > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > > Lists > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and > in > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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