I was about to say "I won't be working anymore for Oracle version 27i". and then I realized that at the rate Oracle is releasing new versions, that would be next year so I'll probably still be doing this stuff
--- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What happened to the dream about the database that doesn't need > a DBA? Something like that was announced for the version 27i. > You know, everything will tune itself, database engine will > tap directly into the user's mind and, based on that, define the > best possible access path. Of course, the instance would spread > iself ideally accross the available disks, allocate the optimum > amount of memory, tune its parameters and deinstall any MS Office > products from the machine. Sort of Larry Ellison's version of > "I have a dream" speach. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:20 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: Re:RE: Rant > > > > > > um no, I mean they are redoing it AGAIN!!!! > > > > I love Oracle, it provides me with an ever and ever steeper > learning > > curve.... > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > YUP, Saw the new version at an Oracle event in Boston a couple > of > > > months ago. > > > Seems that nothing is sacred anymore. BTW: Installer changes > too, > > > now you need > > > a full multimedia terminal, 4 channel audio & VR headset > > recommended. > > > :o) > > > > > > Dick Goulet > > > > > > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ > > > Author: Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: 7/22/2002 9:53 AM > > > > > > you can see how often I use the GUI :) > > > > > > OBTW.. for those of you who are OEM fans... I heard a rumor (from > a > > > fairly well-informed, usually accurate source) that > > Oracle's changing > > > it all again. > > > > > > T > > > --- April Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > IT'S NOT a radio button... It is a regular CLICKY button.... > geez > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 10:24 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Good rant. :) > > > > > > > > I sympathize. The answer I get more and more is "I click on > this > > > item > > > > on the GUI..." (I didn't ask you that, I asked you the theory > > > behind > > > > that little radio button) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- mkb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Ok, I need to vent a little. > > > > > > > > > > Last week, I was asked to do some tech interviews over > > > > > the phones for a mid level DBA position. Someone with > > > > > about 2-3 years experience. > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider myself a real smart DBA, nor do I > > > > > think that I ask particularly tough questions. The > > > > > questions that I ask potential candidates are soley > > > > > based on what is on the resume. So I figure if > > > > > someone has, say, hot backups or SQL tuning on their > > > > > resumes, I'd expect them to be able to hold a fairly > > > > > intelligent conversation about these topics. No such > > > > > luck! > > > > > > > > > > What really frustrated me, and what I really want to > > > > > get out of my system, is that nobody that I talked to, > > > > > had a real good concept of hot backups. Forget about > > > > > recovery. I asked each and every candidate who > > > > > claimed to have done hot backups, just give me a high > > > > > level overview of how you do a hot backup. Don't care > > > > > about syntax, just give me the mechanics. The answers > > > > > I got were completely off base, baffling and > > > > > frustrating. Some of these folks claimed to have 5 > > > > > years experience!!! > > > > > > > > > > 'Well, we use scripts to do these, so I'm not sure how > > > > > these are done...' (But it says on your resume you've > > > > > done this???) > > > > > > > > > > 'Oh, I take the tablespace offline, and copy the > > > > > datafile to tape...' (Unless I'm mistaken, that's not > > > > > how a hot backup is done, right?) > > > > > > > > > > 'Well, I use the export utility, and as the backup > > > > > starts, it is written to the dump file.' (Huh? What?) > > > > > > > > > > 'During this time, everything is written to the redo > > > > > logs and not to the tablespace...' (You've been > > > > > reading one of those books, haven't you?) > > > > > > > > > > I also asked them how they'd put a tablespace in > > > > > backup mode. Simple enough, right? Not one of them > > > > > got it right. Not even close. Didn't have clue as to > > > > > what I was talking about. Fair enough, you don't > > > > > know. Well how about a simple recovery scenario. I > > > > > asked every candidate how they would do an online > > > > > recover of a datafile while the database was still in > > > > > use. No ideas. Not even close. > > > > > > > > > > I dunno, perhaps I'm spoilt by being a member of this > > > > > list? Perhaps I expect every candidate to be as > > > > > knowledgeable as you guys? Perhaps I'm asking too > > > > > much? > > > > > > > > > > Rant over. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > > > > > mkb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Yahoo! 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