oh, thanks, but they'll start sending me stuff next year and I can wait until then :)
--- KENNETH JANUSZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's your mailing address? I can make the arrangements for you. > > Ken Janusz,CPIM > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 8:33 AM > > > > so sweet. so deluded. > > > > I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the oldest I've > found > > but close > > > > on the other hand, AARP (American Association of Retired People) > hasn't > > started sending me their propaganda yet > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I didn't know that they gave Managers jobs to people under 20 :-) > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ================================================= > > > Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Technical Consultant WWW: http://www.mincom.com > > > APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 > > > Brisbane, Australia Mobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 > > > Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 > > > ================================================= > > > A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. > > > > > > - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) > > > ================================================= > > > Mincom "The People, The Experience, The Vision" > > > > > > ================================================= > > > > > > This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is > > > confidential > > > information. If you have received this transmission in error, > please > > > delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this e-mail are > the > > > opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by the Mincom > Group > > > of > > > companies unless expressly stated otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 22-07-2002 07:08 PM > > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > cc: > > > Fax to: > > > Subject: RE: Rant-Rant > > > > > > > > > Oh I know. I was lucky my last job, we had two full-time DBAs > (one > > > senior - me, and one junior/mid) and one senior DBA consultant. > > > > > > I *did* look at my boss last week and said "I no longer work 20 > hour > > > days". > > > > > > Not that I had to. He's good, he's very adamant about the fact > that > > > if > > > there is too much work for one person, we will either hire > > > consultants > > > or the deadlines will be changed. I'd fall in love with him but > he's > > > way too young for me. :) > > > > > > > > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Rachel, > > > > > > > > you are actually proving my point - that a company does not > have > > > the > > > > luxury > > > > (or common sense) to have more than one DBA on staff. > > > > > > > > Robert's utopia just doesn't fly in todays world. hire one > person > > > > and > > > > work-em till they drop is the current motto. > > > > > > > > Tom Mercadante > > > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:24 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > >The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical > > > > >organization > > > > >will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they > rarely > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > excuse me while I wipe the Diet Coke off the screen that I spit > out > > > > when I read this. One DBA per project? Oh God that would be a > > > luxury > > > > beyond belief. > > > > > > > > As I type this I am the DBA for: > > > > > > > > a new data mart/data warehouse project > > > > a new content management system project > > > > a new ecommerce project > > > > the existing "universal login" project AND the replacement > project > > > > the existing asset management application > > > > the existing "community" site (bulletin boards) > > > > > > > > and anything else that needs a DBA ... and I am it, ain't no > other > > > > DBAs > > > > around ...... > > > > > > > > oh yeah, I'm the data architect and data modeler on half these > as > > > > well... which is REALLY funny as I have almost zero data > modeling > > > > experience, other than "common sense" > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > OMG! A Socialist in the group! > > > > > > > > > > "I believe that if we think about these things in a way that > we > > > ask > > > > > > > > > ourselves how can I maximize the potential of this person in > our > > > > > organization, pay him/her a fair wage for what they can do, > and > > > > free > > > > > up my > > > > > time to address the really gnarly stuff we can help our > entire > > > > > society > > > > > better transition to the information era and not marginalize > a > > > > bunch > > > > > of > > > > > great people in the process." > > > > > > > > > > The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical > > > > > organization > > > > > will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they > rarely > > > > > have the > > > > > cash for multiple people. So a DBA ends up getting called > upon > > > do > > > > > cross the > > > > > boundary between very technical stuff as part of the SA group > and > > > > > data > > > > > access/design with the applications group. Lots of room in > > > between > > > > > here for > > > > > talented people. > > > > > > > > > > Tom Mercadante > > > > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:23 PM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been reading this list for the past several months as > I > > > > > prepare to > > > > > move my universe of databases from 7.3 to 9 (probably 9) and > I > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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