Rachel, I think that you are seeing this behavior, because when on Unix, if NLS_LANG is not set in the environment, it defaults to US7ASCII, which does not include the extended characters. The characterset shown in NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS is the database's characterset, not the charset which the client picks up from the environment:
1* select * from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS PARAMETER VALUE ------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA NLS_CURRENCY $ NLS_ISO_CURRENCY AMERICA NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS ., NLS_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1 NLS_CALENDAR GREGORIAN NLS_DATE_FORMAT DD-MON-RR NLS_DATE_LANGUAGE AMERICAN NLS_SORT BINARY NLS_TIME_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM NLS_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM NLS_TIME_TZ_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM NLS_TIMESTAMP_TZ_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM NLS_DUAL_CURRENCY $ NLS_COMP BINARY NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1 NLS_RDBMS_VERSION 8.1.7.3.0 18 rows selected. SAMTESTN> !echo $NLS_LANG AMERICAN_AMERICA.US7ASCII On Windows, however, I think the default is WE8ISO8859P1. HTH Gary Gary Kirsh Next Extent Consulting -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:48 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Ron, You were dead on correct (send me your snail mail address offlist and I'll send you a signed copy of Oracle9i DBA 101) Anjo, you were right too but you already have, or should be getting, a copy of the book. I'll buy you a beer at the next conference :) Very strange. I was loading ON the server itself, not from my client. Database is 9.2, my client on my PC is 8.1.7. The load worked from my PC but not from the server. The pertinent default NLS parameters, from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS, when I do NOT set NLS_LANG are PARAMETER VALUE ------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA NLS_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1 NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET AL16UTF16 NLS_RDBMS_VERSION 9.2.0.1.0 which looks right but the load doesn't work. When I set the Unix environment variable NLS_LANG to AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1, the load works properly. Anyone want to explain THAT to me? and the docs are, as usual, clear as mud. I figured it out with the hints from Ron and Anjo and testing inserts from my PC and the server directly. Hope this helps some other poor soul in the future! Rachel --- Ron Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Make sure your environment NLS_LANG matches how the data is encoded > in your flat file. > > Also, does the database characterset handle whatever special > characters you are trying to import? > > Ron Thomas > Hypercom, Inc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If A = B and B = C, then A = C, except where void or prohibited by > law. -- Roy Santoro > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 08/26/02 02:41 PM cc: > > Please respond to Subject: sql loader > control file help > ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > I am not, by any means, a SQL*Loader expert (Jonathan, I keep meaning > to get your book!) > > Here's the thing: > > I have a flat file with character data that includes special > characters > (like accents and diacritical marks over letters). When I load the > data > in using SQL*Loader, the special characters disappear and are > replaced > by the letter (so Dvorák goes on as Dvorak). > > How can I get the data in as it should be? I've been reading and will > continue to read the fine manual, but I'm not finding this... > > Help! > > Rachel > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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