No, the default is US7ASCII.  See table 3-2 at
http://docs.oracle.com/cd_a97630/server.920/a96529/ch3.htm#56354.  That's
why you're losing the extended characters.

Gary

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See, this is why this stuff confuses me.. shouldn't UTF8 accept the
diacritical marks?

argh... in any case, it's working now

Rachel


--- "SARKAR, Samir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rachel,
> 
> The Unix server generally looks for the character set
> AMERICAN_AMERICA.UTF8 unless you specify it explicitly otherwise by
> setting the environmental
> variable 
> before the installation commences.
> 
> Samir
> 
> Samir Sarkar
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> Sent: 27 August 2002 16:48
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> 
> 
> Ron,  
> 
> You were dead on correct (send me your snail mail address offlist and
> I'll send you a signed copy of Oracle9i DBA 101)
> 
> Anjo, you were right too but you already have, or should be getting,
> a
> copy of the book.  I'll buy you a beer at the next conference :)
> 
> Very strange. I was loading ON the server itself, not from my client.
> Database is 9.2, my client on my PC is 8.1.7. The load worked from my
> PC but not from the server. The pertinent default NLS parameters,
> from
> NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS, when I do NOT set NLS_LANG are
> 
> PARAMETER                      VALUE
> ------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------
> NLS_LANGUAGE                   AMERICAN
> NLS_TERRITORY                  AMERICA
> NLS_CHARACTERSET               WE8ISO8859P1
> NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET         AL16UTF16
> NLS_RDBMS_VERSION              9.2.0.1.0
> 
> which looks right but the load doesn't work. When I set the Unix
> environment variable NLS_LANG to AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1, the
> load works properly. Anyone want to explain THAT to me?
> 
> and the docs are, as usual, clear as mud.  I figured it out with the
> hints from Ron and Anjo and testing inserts from my PC and the server
> directly.
> 
> Hope this helps some other poor soul in the future!
> 
> Rachel
> 
> --- Ron Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Make sure your environment NLS_LANG matches how the data is encoded
> > in your flat file.
> > 
> > Also, does the database characterset handle whatever special
> > characters you are trying to import?
> > 
> > Ron Thomas
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> > 
> > I am not, by any means, a SQL*Loader expert (Jonathan, I keep
> meaning
> > to get your book!)
> > 
> > Here's the thing:
> > 
> > I have a flat file with character data that includes special
> > characters
> > (like accents and diacritical marks over letters). When I load the
> > data
> > in using SQL*Loader, the special characters disappear and are
> > replaced
> > by the letter (so Dvorák goes on as Dvorak).
> > 
> > How can I get the data in as it should be? I've been reading and
> will
> > continue to read the fine manual, but I'm not finding this...
> > 
> > Help!
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> > Rachel
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