Mahul,

Sounds a bit of a classic problem - optimum performance and availability
required with no time given for database admin/reorg work. One idea you
might think about is messy but could involve the following:

Step 1  Create 2 tables - Prob_table  and prob_table_copy
Step 2  Create indexes on prob_table
Step 2  Load up 10,000 rows into prob_table(while being read at the same
time)
Step 3  Load next 10,000 rows into prob_table_copy
Step 4  Insert into prob_table_copy select * from prob_table
Step 5  Build indexes on prob_table_copy
step 6  Rename prob_table to prob_table_temp
Step 7  Rename prob_table_copy to prob_table
Step 8  Insert into prob_table select * from prob_table_temp where timestamp
> xxxx (to capture rows that were inserted after the select was called)
Step 9  Load up next 10,000 rows into prob_table(while being read at the
same time)
Step 10  Rename prob_table_temp to prob_table_copy
etc....

I'm sure you get the idea. As I mentioned messy but not impossible.  In
addition you will also need to capture timestamps if you don't already.

Good luck!

Chris 

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Thanks a lot for the response,
No its not a batch insert; each insert is done with auto-commit=true from
the java application. So, after each insert a commit is done at the Db
level, which is the root cause of such a delay, I guess.
But if this auto-commit is the issue than why first 10K records are inserted
quickly.
I cannot disable constraints even for a sinlge second as there will be heavy
reads going on even when inserts are taking place.

Any clues?

TAI
Marul.


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> Marul,
>
> I think this question needs to be answered,  otherwise impossible to make
> suggestions...
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 05 September 2002 08:18
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Marul, what i fail to understand is:
>
> Are you running a batch job of inserting 350,000 inserts?
>
> If that is the case then you should go for dropping and recreating the
> indexes. Can you partition the table and use local partitioned indexes?
>
> Can't you try the option of inserting in parallel?
>
> Did you try disabling the constraints and then ENABLE NOVALIDATE them(that
> will only work if you r sure of the data)?
>
> Naveen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:48 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Thanks Chris,
> So than any clues how to resolve this issue, as earliest, becuase this is
> causing bottleneck in our application .
>
> Rgds,
> Marul.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:29 AM
>
>
> > Good question,  Jared!  Perhaps 'overflow' is technically not the
correct
> > term to use to decribe this scenario but it seemed to fit the bill
> > sufficiently to mail off a quick one-liner solution without going into
> great
> > depth.  Some of us have work to do,  you know ;)
> >
> > To redeem myself I  probably should have mentioned that this table
sounds
> > pretty volatile.  Consequently the index(es) are likely to end up fairly
> > disorganized,  especially if the 350k records are being inserted in
> > ascending order.   Once you start adding levels to the index things
start
> to
> > slow down....
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: 04 September 2002 16:50
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday 04 September 2002 04:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > It sounds to me like the indexes are going into overflow - this will
> cause
> >
> > What do you mean by 'overflow'?
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > > the insert time to increase.  I would suggest batching up the inserts,
> > > dropping the indexes,  running the inserts and re-creating the
indexes.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 04 September 2002 07:53
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > We have a table which can contain more than half a million records.
When
> > we
> > > try to insert some 10k records in the empty table it get inserted in
10
> > > min. but as the size increases time taken to insert also increases.
> After
> > > 350,000 records it takes around an hour to insert 10k records.
> > > There are around 15 columns in it out of which 11 are indexed. There
is
> > one
> > > concatenated function-based index on two columns of Varchar type and
two
> > > separate index for the same two columns.
> > >
> > > I have checked the free space for the tablespaces to which the table
and
> > > indexes are attached to. They are in two separate tbs.
> > >
> > > Any clues why this is happenning.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > Marul.
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