both scenarios potentially lose the online redo logs. actually, since you don't include the backup of the archived redo logs in either scenario, you can't do recovery without a resetlogs for both scenarios.
In order not to lose the contents of the online logs, you have to archive them and back them up as well. Assuming you add in the archive of the online logs, and then backup the archived logs as well, both scenarios can accomplish complete recovery. What you lose in scenario 2 is the database availability during the database is shut down for the file copy. I hope you didn't bet on this. Rachel --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi DBAs, > > A co-worker and I disagree on impact of slightly different B&R > scenarios > and I would like your thoughts. > > Environment for both scenarios: Oracle 8.1.6, WinNt, Archivelog mode, > not > using RMAN > > Scenario 1: > I do standard Hot Backup using > BEGIN BACKUP > OCOPY ... > END BACKUP > ..... > > If database crashes I perform media recovery then recover > database. > > Scenario 2: > Co-worker shuts down database and copy all files to backup > directory. > Restarts database backup > If database crashes restore backup files then apply > the > archive logs. > > Co-worker says both scenarios are the same. I think scenario 1 > results in > no loss where scenario 2 results in the loss > of data that was in the online redo logs. > > Any thoughts on this? > Also what is the minimum system/object priviledges a user needs to > perform > B&R. I would like to create a user with only those > privs necessary for B&R. > > Thanks > Rick > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).