Tim / All.

I figured it out.

Basically assign users SYSDBA privies and track accordingly. 

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please be a little more specific?  what exactly is it that oracle won't do?

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> Tim - Thanks for the well worded response.  Very, very helpful.
>
> So my next question:  Are there any 3rd party applications available to do
> what Oracle won't?
>
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>
> SYSDBA activities are not logged to the SYS.AUD$ table, even in Oracle9i
> with the AUDIT_SYS_OPERATIONS parameter set to TRUE.  SYSDBA operations
are
> always logged to the OS audit trail, including access/modifications to the
> SYS.AUD$ table...
>
> The reason that these records are only logged to the audit trail (previous
> to Oracle9i, only connections as SYSDBA were logged) is because that is
the
> only way to protect the audit records review and (especially!) alteration
> from people with SYSDBA privilege.  Someone with SYSDBA could alway muck
> with the contents of the SYS.AUD$ table, but they would not necessarily
have
> OS permissions to alter the audit records sent to the OS.
>
> ..which is why the command CONNECT INTERNAL went away with Oracle9i, to
> remove the last necessity for DBAs to be members of the OSDBA and OSOPER
> groups in the OS.  Now, with 9i and CONNECT ... AS SYSDBA commands, you
can
> "lock down" the OS account and account-group that owns the Oracle software
> away from those with SYSDBA privileges, thus protecting the software
> distribution files, log files, trace files, and audit files from casual
> modification, if desired...
>
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> > Hello All,
> >
> > Do any of you have suggestions for a good way to monitor sysdba user
> > activities on the sys.aud$ table?  Or, in terms of logging everything,
> what
> > would be the keypoints to log scrub on?
> >
> > Any suggestions would be wonderful.
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