okay fine, Talisker then :)

--- "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Black Adder is an excellent method to get me to shut up and leave!
> 
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> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> I'm flattered you put me in the same category as Kirti, Dan, Jared,
> Connor and Jonathan.
> 
> If I recall the cost of my (one) trip to Australia, it would be
> cheaper
> to import you to IOUG than it would be to get us there!  I'm not sure
> about Jared and Connor, the rest of us will be at IOUG. And for the
> price of a drink of Black Adder Scotch I'm sure you could get Dan to
> expound on Oracle and backup and recovery and blockcentric tuning all
> night long. Okay, make that a bottle of BlackAdder and make sure he
> isn't presenting first thing the next morning :)
> 
> 
> --- Mark Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > Point well taken (both Rachel's and Jared's).  I should have said
> > (and was
> > even thinking - although the brain and hands sometimes act
> > independently)
> > "might not be worth indexing".  It sounds like a helpdesk system
> for
> > a
> > pretty small customer base so I was assuming that system load isn't
> > likely
> > to be a problem.  My experience has always been that if the fact is
> > 1000
> > rows and the reference are maybe 3 - 10 then Oracle is going to eat
> > it up
> > for lunch no matter how it's structured unless a large number of
> > concurrent
> > user come along.
> > 
> > Now on a more serious note, when is the week-long Rachel
> Carmichael,
> > Dan
> > Fink, Jonathan Lewis, Connor, Jared, Kirti, et al "How to well and
> > truly
> > beat Oracle into Submission" seminar coming down under to
> Australia? 
> > I
> > need to know so that I can start selling my soul to raise enough
> > money to
> > attend...  With our dollar the way it is a seminar like that would
> > cost
> > about the same as my house.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> >                     Carmichael           To:     Multiple
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> >                     ahoo.com>            Subject:     Re: Are too
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> > 
> > Mark,
> > 
> > Based on the presentation and testing Dan Fink did for the last
> NYOUG
> > meeting, it's possible that the ref tables SHOULD be indexed, and
> > that
> > it will help performance to index them.
> > 
> > Rachel
> > 
> > --- Mark Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > I don't think Oracle will have a real problem with 15 tables or
> > 1,000
> > > rows.
> > > If the ref tables are quite small then they won't even be worth
> > > indexing -
> > > Oracle will just read the entire table at one anyway.  You might
> > want
> > > to
> > > tell Oracle to CACHE the reference tables, although I don't think
> > > you'll
> > > see a performance gain really.  Unfortunately I can't give any
> > > performance
> > > suggestions because I am used to the other end of the scale (ie:
> > 250
> > > million rows in data)
> > >
> > > You probably could store CODE in the main table, but if you are
> > going
> > > to
> > > need the description frequently then all benefit is lost anyway.
> > > Either
> > > way though I'm sure that you'll have more problems getting the 15
> > > joins
> > > right when writing the queries than Oracle's CBO will have when
> > > looking at
> > > the query - I've seen some real nasty queries get pushed into
> > > Oracle's
> > > optimisor and as long at the statistics are valid then it does a
> > > pretty
> > > good job.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >      Mark.
> > >
> > > PS:  Why would the reference CODE change instead of the
> > DESCRIPTION?
> > > I'm
> > > guessing the code will be meaningful such as "HIGH", "CRITICAL",
> > etc
> > > and
> > > description might be "Must fix within 1 hr".  Even still, I think
> > you
> > > are
> > > right when you said that CODE isn't likely to change often, if at
> > > all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >                     Gregory Norris
> > >
> > >                     <GNorris2@work       To:     Multiple
> > recipients
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> > >                     Sent by:             Subject:     Are too
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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