One question, don't you have to have the database in no mount state to
recover the controlfile in 8i?  You do in 8.0.x.

Ruth
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> 9i Offers automated recovery of the control file. All you need to know is
> where you are making your
> control file backups to (tape or disk), and the DBID of the database you
> wish to recover the control
> file of. If you forget the DBID, not to worry because it's stored in the
> file name of the backup
> pieces that contain the control file so you can play around and find the
> DBID that way.
>
> 9i RMAN is much easier in this respect than earlier RMAN versions.
>
> Still, even if you loose your control file in 8i, it's not too hard to
> recover that control file
> as long as you know where your backup pieces are. You just need to mount
the
> instance and use
> dbms_backup_restore to recover the control file from the backup set. It's
> perhaps not the most
> straight forward method of doing this, but it works.
>
> Shameless plug - This is all documented in Oracle9i RMAN Backup and
Recovery
> by Oracle Press. :-)
>
> RF
>
> Robert G. Freeman
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> Igor - Hopefully you won't lose your repository at the same time you lose
> all your production database controlfiles. However, if that is happens,
> hopefully you were outside the computer room at that moment. ;-)
>     So, you should be able to recover your repository and/or take a fresh
> backup.
>     I should point out that even if you use an RMAN repository, the
recovery
> information is still stored in the control files, so you can still perform
a
> control file recovery. But Jared is correct that it is much more difficult
> if you must try to recover the control file from the RMAN backup piece.
That
> is why I separately back up the control file (binary backup) after the
RMAN
> backup. I understand this is all much better in 9i.
>
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 40%OCP
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> Doesn't the same apply to database repository, when it's lost?
>
> Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
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> > And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files
> > are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?
> >
> > This doesn't sound very reasonable.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Joe,
> >  That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University
> > Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it
may
> > happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further.
> >
> > - Kirti
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> > <snip>
> >
> > Obilgatory oracle statement/question:  rumor has it by some instructors
> > that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries
> > will be possible, truth or fiction?
> >
> > joe
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