> The overhead of the repository database is more. With the initial 
releases of RMAN (EBU) Oracle was rightly 
> criticized for the fact that you had to backup the database that holds 
information about the database you want to backup. 
> Getting rid of this silliness seems reasonable to me.

Why silly?

It isn't any more silly than making a separate backup of the Veritas 
Netbackup catalog.

It's just a different level of abstraction.

Jared






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If you aren't using a repository all you have to do is make sure control 
file backups are part of the routine. There are 2 ways to backup the 
backup metadata: 1) the RMAN repository database; 2) backup controlfiles. 
Functionally and operationally they're pretty much the same. The only 
things you can't do with controlfile RMAN/database metadata is: 1) use 
previous "incarnations" of the database for recovery; 2) use database 
stored scripts. No big deal as far as I'm concerned.
When RMAN first came out a separate repository database was a requirement. 
Subsequent releases added some functionality for using controlfiles. The 
vulnerability of losing the repository or losing the backup controlfile is 
about equivalent. The overhead of the repository database is more. With 
the initial releases of RMAN (EBU) Oracle was rightly criticized for the 
fact that you had to backup the database that holds information about the 
database you want to backup. Getting rid of this silliness seems 
reasonable to me.

Steve Orr-man for RMAN, 
Bozeman, Montana 

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And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files 
are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file? 
This doesn't sound very reasonable. 
Jared 

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Joe, 
 That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University 
Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it may 
happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further. 
- Kirti 
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Obilgatory oracle statement/question:  rumor has it by some instructors 
that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries 
will be possible, truth or fiction? 
joe 


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