You can make up a universal script that logs into each an gets the 
appropriate info. Just takes a little thinking -its a little more
time but can be done.

Brian


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Gene - I would think your site would be just what the repository was
designed for. You could use a single repository for all 25 databases. Then
each day you could execute a simple query and receive an exception report
that tells you any backup vulnerabilities for any of the 25 systems. Without
the repository you'd have to spend a lot of your time either typing commands
each day or creating programs to perform what RMAN offers built in.
    As to the rumors that Oracle is going to soon abandon the RMAN
repository, I agree with Robert (if I recall correctly). How could they?
Large Oracle customers are heavily committed to the repository, and Oracle
usually doesn't do anything that stupid. But people are whining about why
they are forced to use the repository, so Oracle is emphasizing that you can
get most of the benefits without a repository. But in your situation, I
would strongly consider the repository.



Dennis Williams 
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Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Dennis - I am now running 8.1.6 & 8.1.7 w/out RMAN, soon to upgrade to 9.2
then implement RMAN.  I have 25 db instances.  I am thinking of using RMAN
w/out a repository unless there are great reasons not to :)
Gene

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Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How many instances will you be backing up?



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN.  If the
repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of it.
Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away?  It appears much
simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides reporting advantages, what
are the real benefits to using a repository?

Thanks,
Gene
PS. Now reading Robert's book. 

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its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up 
controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman backup 
piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the 
filename pieces you pass it).

then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do normal 
recovery procedure.

joe


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>And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files
>are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?
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>This doesn't sound very reasonable.
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>Jared
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>Joe,
> That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University 
>Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it may 
>happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further. 
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>- Kirti 
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>Obilgatory oracle statement/question:  rumor has it by some instructors 
>that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries 
>will be possible, truth or fiction?
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>joe
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