Using a logon trigger works until they figure out
that renaming the executable will let them in.

Jared





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We had same problems at 2 sites here. I dont allow access in 
Production, I can usually scare management enough to keep them 
out and I apply a LOGON trigger to stop any connection from 
access (and SQLPLUS etc for that matter, unless its a user that I 
allow). I do create a copy of PROD every day to TEST and they can 
do what they like on this database. 

----- Original Message -----
Date: Monday, February 3, 2003 4:38 

> Bill,
> I have to live with people who want to usc Access too. I agree 
> wfth you it is a
> pain in the a--. Our solution, with damagement's agreement, is to 
> only do what
> is possible. I think that in your situation you'll have to do 
> likewise. The
> problem being Access's local tables.  What may help is if they 
> link the tables &
> apply the appropriate limits on each.
> 
> Dick Goulet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 1/31/03 2:24 pm:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> We are stuck with a group of users who insist on using MS access 
> 2K 9.0 on a
> Win2K workstation as an adhoc query front end to an Oracle 
8.1.7.4 
> db on Sun.
> 
> The problem is that their queries run OK when executed from 
> sqlplus directly
> against Oracle, but are terrible when executed from access. This 
> is because
> access has tables linked to the oracle tables, and access insists 
> on downloading
> all the data, performing the joins and where clause filters on the 
> localworkstation.
> 
> I don't know much about access, and don't want to; however, this 
> has been dumped
> on us, so I am hoping that someone has experienced the same 
> problem and found a
> solution. No, we can't dump access, and use something different; 
> for reasons
> beyond our control (management), we have to make this work.
> 
> I think the solution is to somehow force the query to be processed 
> on the Oracle
> machine, and return only the result set. We have tried the access 
> "passthrough"option, but I believe that fails due to the newer 
> ansi syntax used by access.
> (OUTER JOIN, INNER JOIN, etc.) The users insist on using 
access's 
> gui query
> generator.
> 
> Has anyone found a solution to this? Is there a good whitepaper 
> somewhere like,
> "Using Access as a Front-End Query Tool to Oracle?" (I will 
search 
> google)
> Thanks to all who have read this far,
> More thanks to any responders,
> Most thanks for any helpful advice
> 
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