Jeremy - I should probably have been more specific. :-) Years ago I worked
for a software vendor. They wanted to port their product to Oracle. They
expected to receive complimentary licenses in order to do this. Most vendors
bend over backwards to have you port to their product. Oracle expected that
they would buy licenses just like everybody else. We developers sort of
ended up in the middle, since Oracle Support didn't consider us to exist and
wouldn't allow us to file TARs. Again, this was one experience, and someone
else might have had a different experience.



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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> From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
> Maria - Actually, I would think the best time to contact 
> Oracle sales is when you don't have money. Good sales people 
> can smell money. ;-) 

Heh. 

>    Some software companies are very liberal about providing 
> their product for development and training purposes. My 
> impression has been that Oracle is NOT one of those 
> companies. 

Um, no. 

For development they can't be beat; the only thing I miss out on is
Metalink, but my clients usually provide a (legal) access path for that. OTN
is fantastic for developers.

However, for training this statement is true. I ran into this in a big way
when working for a smallish SW company. We developed a slick method of
rolling out the product to a large-scale enterprise, partially using some
proprietary Oracle objects (sequences, PL/SQL, etc). Oracle had no problem
with this. The problem occurred, however, when we wanted to hold private
classes to train our consultants and implementation partners on this method.
We ended up having to buy licenses, and eventually moving the tool to a
non-platform specific means.

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