Hi,

We are using Oracle 8i and have successfully recovered the control file from
the a backup piece.  Like you, we have been testing this for disaster
recovery purposes and it works well.  There is one tip that I can suggest
though.

In the Oracle manuals all the suggested scripts seem to following these
steps:

backup database including control file
archive the current log file
backup all archive log files.

In a disaster scenario when you are relying on your last backup and may not
have access to the most recent redo information or backup catalogue, the
above backup steps would only allow you to recovery up to the point of the
control file backup - the archive redo logs are essentially useless.  The
simple tip is to ensure that the control file backup is performed after the
archive log backup - that is make it the LAST backup to be done.  This way
you will be storing ALL information about the latest archive logs and their
most recent backups.

You know that the last backup piece contains the control file so you can use
this to manually recover it.  Once you have the control file is it a simple
matter to use RMAN to recover the rest of the backup from the control file
in the normal way.

There is a stored procedure in the Backup and Recovery/RMAN manuals  for
Oracle 8i.  In Oracle 9i this is better supported.  Let me know if you
cannot find it and I'll send it along.

Cheers,
Craig.




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Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 4:34 AM
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Alex
   Someone may reply with better information, but we have been doing
disaster recoveries with RMAN, using just the control file. In our case, we
are just trying to recover the level 0 backup, but I can't see a reason you
couldn't incorporate the level 1 backup as well. If you are just getting
started, I would recommend that you purchase Robert Freeman's book Oracle9i
RMAN Backup & Recovery. If you are on Oracle8i, Robert provides plenty of
details to allow you to use his book against Oracle8i. 
   I don't see a problem doing what you are proposing. I have just been
recovering the Level 0 backup, but going forward to the level 1 should not
be a problem. Some people report that in Oracle8i they have been able to
extract the control file from the backup, but I gave up and just back it up
separately after the RMAN backup. You also need any archive logs created
during the RMAN backup.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:14 AM
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Hello Folks,

I am just working with recovery scenarios and have question about
rman.
Consider following situation:
1. Use recovery manager without catalog only control file.
2. Have level 0 database backup + level 1 backup.

If we lost all datafiles except datafiles from SYSTEM it is not a
problem to recover database. Also if RMAN uses catalog it works good.

But in scenario if we lost all datafiles (including all files from
SYSTEN tablespace) how to recover database?

Thank you for your help.
-- 
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