Absolutely identical plans, and traces -
the only change was that the cost of the
sort step went up.  This was testing on a
very simple plan too, trying to trade between
    sort (order by)
and an index driven order by - so nothing as
complex as messing with a merge join.

If you're interested in the specific example, I'll post
you the script offline to recreate the test case: I'll have
to  pull it from a different machine, though, which is why
I can't post it right now.

BTW - I still believe quite firmly that hints are
never ignored.  They may be syntactically incorrect,
there may be bugs, they may never become relevant;
but I don't think they are ignored.  However, I will agree
that there are more and more grey areas in 9.2 where
the increased scope for (internal) query rewrites is so
extensive that it is becoming a lot harder to decide why
a hint appears to have been ignored.


Regards

Jonathan Lewis
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-----Original Message-----
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 February 2003 23:07
hint


>Did the increase in SORT_AREA_SIZE change the execution plan,
regardless of
>the use of hints (since certain hints can easily be ignored)?  Larger
>SORT_AREA_SIZE might encourage the CBO to choose a SORT-MERGE join,
for
>example...
>


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