I prefer the analogy of asking if Einstein theory of general relativity was correct before the technology was available to prove it correct ;)
Two serious points though: I didn't say "untraceable" I said 'a lot harder to decide why'. Secondly - if you start with the premise that hints are ignorable, this means you may give up much too soon when trying to use a hint and do something nasty like turning a SQL statement into a great long screed of procedural code. Not that I approve of hints, mind you - but sometimes hinting is the least-worst short-term solution. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Coming soon one-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation Trouble-shooting and Tuning Indexing Strategies (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) ____UK_______March 19th ____USA_(FL)_May 2nd Next Seminar dates: (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) ____USA_(CA, TX)_August The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html -----Original Message----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 17 February 2003 03:34 hint >Sounds more and more like a "if a tree falls in the >forest and no-one is there" kind of discussion.. > >We're getting to the stage where there is an >indeterminate number of untraceable but deliberate >reasons for the optimizer to 'avoid' a hint. Without >access to the source code, that's getting pretty close >to the statement: "the optimizer ignored my hint" > >:-) > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).