Paula - Now you've got my attention. Can you describe in more detail what
you mean by "editing backup controlfile". I use a backup controlfile to
create test databases / validate RMAN backups, so this sounds like something
I could use. Thanks.



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With DR did use RMAN.  Again: 

(1) using RMAN worked fine from one host to another of same database 
(2) using cold backup and editing backup controlfile worked fine for same
host different database name 
(3) using RMAN for duplicating one database to same host with different
database name in Version 8.1.7.X seemed to require "until...."

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Paula - Okay, when you say you brought the database down, copied the files, 
etc., I presume that had nothing to do with RMAN? You didn't mention RMAN in

that post, but your original post was all about RMAN. 

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I have done DR just fine using the same database name and creating (with 
links or otherwise) the same file system names.  This was using a complete 
backup to restore a database to the same host with a different name and the 
bug alluded to using the "until....clause" I feel is the key.  BTW, I just 
waited till afterhours brought the database down, copied the file and cloned

the easy way.  

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auxi 


Paula - How is your duplication going? Well I hope. Are you basically trying


to perform a disaster recovery? That was basically what I was requested to 
do. The statement was "imagine the computer room was taken out by 
terrorists, and all you have are the tapes from the off-site storage. You 
are provided another server, now recover the database". Is this anything 
like what you are trying to do? As I recall, DUPLICATE wouldn't work because


it just copies the production database, not using the backup tape. With help


from a local consultant I accomplished that. 



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Dear Robert, 

Wow, I get the best!!!  Anyway, in this case I am trying to clone/duplicate 
an existing database to a new database.  Therefore, I don't have an existing


control file and when I have done this with same database name from Host A 
to Host B as part of the duplication command it basically recreates the 
control file.  I have gotten that type of clone to work. 

I have also gotten clones to work where I was on host A and wanted to clone 
database A to database B by copying from a shutdown database, editing the 
"backup controlfile to trace" file.  

This case is different from either one above.  In this case I am trying to 
use RMAN and one Host A take a backup of database A and restore it as 
database B all from the backup itself.  This operation I have not been able 
to do so I wait for off-hours to do the second option listed above.  

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Paula, 

Try to mount the auxillary database manually, and see what error you get. 
That might help point you in the right direction in solving the problem. 
probably 70% of the time it's an issue with the configuration of the aux 
database (e.g. parameter set wrong, etc...). Manual startup will show you if



that is the case most of the time. 

RF 

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Hmmm. 

Got Robert's book on 9i 
This database and clone is in 8.1.7 hmmm. 

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Paula - I was never able to get this working, but then I didn't have 
Robert 
Freeman's book at that time. Do you have his book as a resource? 



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I did. 

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you need to :   startup nomount pfile=xxx.ora 

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Guys, 
  
When trying to duplicate database with this script 
  
  
I have my auxiliary setup as new database, target setup as old database 
and 
am using duplicate database command along with logfile command to create 
new 
logfiles.  
  
  
  
Get error: 
  
RMAN-06136: ORACLE error from auxiliary database: ORA-01507: database 
not 
mounte 

d 

  

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