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Hey Tom,
You can send me $111 3 times and I'll be happy!  ;o)
 
-Scott Stefick
-----Original Message-----
From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

how about if I send you $1,111,111.11   3 times.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

It's a superstition.  Whole christian mithology is based on the number 3. We have Holy Trinity, we have 3 places to go when we transcend
into food  for ants (paradise,purgatory, and the place with great demos) , we have 3 layers of personality, according to Freud (libido, ego, super-ego),
to make the whole story short, number 3 is sort of a mystical number in christian mithology. Now, please send me $3,333,333.33
 
 
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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tanel Poder
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:05 PM
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Subject: Re: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

Hi!
 
I've always wondered why 3 syncs. Is it quaranteed, that after *exactly 3* syncs everything has been written to disk? Or it more like that after that number of syncs, most of the changes should be on disk? (sounds stupid)
 
Tanel.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Gorman
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

I'd suggest throwing a couple ALTER SYSTEM CHECKPOINT commands just prior to the SHUTDOWN ABORT, to help speed up the subsequent STARTUP (and just to make me feel better)...

Does anyone remember the UNIX mantra of entering "sync; sync; sync" before "halt"?  :-)



on 8/20/03 11:09 AM, April Wells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We have started waiting 90 min then do shutdown abort, startup, shutdown immediate

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
Adam Wells age 11

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:54 PM
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Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

Which brings up that thread of - if they are hard to shutdown and possibly going to crash anyway then ..... why not just wait some period of time and do the old shutdown abort.  
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:00 PM
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Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

We do, Paula... both in 9.0.1.3 and 9.2.0.2 we have trouble getting them to shutdown elegantly... and they sometimes crash

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas

Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite
Adam Wells age 11

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:50 AM
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Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons

BTW, nothing happening in terms of processes that would hang-up the system.  Also, I have check alert and trace files and there are no obvious errors.  
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:25 PM
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Subject: RE: URGENT!!! My 9i databases are not shutting down cleanly/cons


There seems to be a problem with consistent shutdowns in 9i

Oracle 9i 64bit

9.0.1.3.0 - infrastructure database that comes with the application server
9.2.0.1.0 - that is the version of RDBMS we are running.

Does anyone have problems shutting down their databases consistently with 9i?????

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