A couple of corrections are in order here.  First, some Christians
might object to your characterizing the Holy Trinity, et. al. as
"mythology".  Second, I thought we became food for worms, not ants.


--- Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's a superstition.  Whole christian mithology is based on the
> number 3. We
> have Holy Trinity, we have 3 places to go when we transcend 
> into food  for ants (paradise,purgatory, and the place with great
> demos) ,
> we have 3 layers of personality, according to Freud (libido, ego,
> super-ego),
> to make the whole story short, number 3 is sort of a mystical number
> in
> christian mithology. Now, please send me $3,333,333.33
>  
>  
> --
> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Tanel Poder
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> Hi!
>  
> I've always wondered why 3 syncs. Is it quaranteed, that after
> *exactly 3*
> syncs everything has been written to disk? Or it more like that after
> that
> number of syncs, most of the changes should be on disk? (sounds
> stupid)
>  
> Tanel.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> 
> I'd suggest throwing a couple ALTER SYSTEM CHECKPOINT commands just
> prior to
> the SHUTDOWN ABORT, to help speed up the subsequent STARTUP (and just
> to
> make me feel better)...
> 
> Does anyone remember the UNIX mantra of entering "sync; sync; sync"
> before
> "halt"?  :-)
> 
> 
> 
> on 8/20/03 11:09 AM, April Wells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> We have started waiting 90 min then do shutdown abort, startup,
> shutdown
> immediate
> 
> April Wells 
> Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA 
> Corporate Systems 
> Amarillo Texas 
> 
> Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite 
> Adam Wells age 11 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:54 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Which brings up that thread of - if they are hard to shutdown and
> possibly
> going to crash anyway then ..... why not just wait some period of
> time and
> do the old shutdown abort.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:00 PM
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> 
> 
> We do, Paula... both in 9.0.1.3 and 9.2.0.2 we have trouble getting
> them to
> shutdown elegantly... and they sometimes crash
> 
> April Wells 
> Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA 
> Corporate Systems 
> Amarillo Texas 
> 
> Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite 
> Adam Wells age 11 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> BTW, nothing happening in terms of processes that would hang-up the
> system.
> Also, I have check alert and trace files and there are no obvious
> errors.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> ]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> There seems to be a problem with consistent shutdowns in 9i 
> 
> Oracle 9i 64bit 
> 
> 9.0.1.3.0 - infrastructure database that comes with the application
> server 
> 9.2.0.1.0 - that is the version of RDBMS we are running. 
> 
> Does anyone have problems shutting down their databases consistently
> with
> 9i????? 
> 
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