I know the folks here are using distcc
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hanno/distcc.html to compile their gentoo stuff
(desktop only).


Rich

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: MacGregor, Ian A. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 12:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Grid
> 
> 
> We've been talking of Grid computing here since either late 
> 1999 or early 2000.  The computing for our main experiment 
> was designed before the Grid was contemplated.  Still we have 
> implemented some of the middleware needed, and build methods 
> of authentication and authorization, and participated in Grid 
> experiments. We have also been pushing the ability to 
> transfer large amounts of data.  The latest effort: 2.3 GB 
> per second between the local internet hub and Geneva 
> Switzerland over Internet 2.  This is vital to make the Grid work.
> 
> I was looking at the papers from the last Computing in High 
> Energy Physics conference.  I'd estimate that over half dealt 
> with the Grid.  Nearly all had to do with test beds or 
> implementation standards.  But the AMANDA experiment, 
> Antarctic Muon and Neutrino Detector Array, is using the Grid 
> in production.  The AMANDA  instrument is situated at the South Pole.
> 
> In 1990 if had mentioned the web very few would have heard of 
> it, but within a few years URL's were ubiquitous.  Oracle was 
> very slow in adapting to the web.    Perhaps this time they 
> want to be avant garde.  I don't know how the Grid is to work 
> in the business environment.  Major scientific collaborations 
> include universities and HEP labs from numerous countries 
> working towards the same goals including the sharing of 
> computer resources.  I doubt Pepsi would share its resources 
> with Coke.  Will we have the cokegrid, the pepsigrid, etc.
> 
> Ian MacGregor
> Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]    
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Although I haven't got into the technical details of 'The 
> Grid' (and thanks for this article - I shall read it), but 
> nevertheless I have a haunting sense of deja vu. Remember all 
> the hype over distributed computing that Oracle generated? 
> Remember the key part client-server was of that? Remember 
> what Ellison said about that? ('The biggest mistake we ever 
> made' - I was there, I heard him say it). So..... I'm just 
> wondering how this particular circle is going to be squared...
> 
> peter
> edinburgh
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:10 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> While I was cleaning up the other day, I noticed a magazine 
> sticking out of the middle (sadly, closer to the top) of my 
> still-to-be-read list. The cover story of Physics Today (Feb. 
> 2002) is "The Power of Grid Computing". It is a pretty good 
> review article on the subject. If anyone is interested, the 
> URL is http://www.aip.org/pt/vol-55/iss-2/p42.html
> 
> The major point seems to be that the grid is simply just a 
> way to share distributed resources. However, utilizing these 
> resources needs an infrastructure in place. It "requires 
> uniform mechanisms for such critical tasks as creating and 
> managing services on remote computers, supporting single 
> sign-on to distributed resources, transferring large datasets 
> at high speeds, forming large distributed virtual 
> communities, and maintaining information about the existence, 
> state, and usage policies of community resources...Providing 
> the infrastructure and tools that make large-scale, secure 
> resource sharing possible and straight-forward is the Grid's 
> raison d'etre."
> 
> In addition, this means that computing resources can be 
> parcelled out like a utility. If you need extra CPU, buy it 
> and use it from your utility when you need it. You don't need 
> to own the hardware for your peak load. It also becomes 
> easier to share data and applications between colleagues at 
> different locations.
> 
> I can see how databases are part of this picture, but I am 
> not sure how Oracle will try and place itself at the center 
> of this trend (unless they mangle the concept of Grid in the process).
> 
> Henry
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