atm is obsolete. cheap is relative. i didnt mean its $20/month or comparable to 
getting AOL. alot of mid-large businesses have them. 
> 
> From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/08/28 Thu AM 03:14:26 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Grid
> 
> Hi!
> 
> It's still quite hard to believe, that it could be anywhere near cheap. Even
> building 10Gbit locatl Ethernet is currently expensive. You would need
> 16*655Mb ATM connections for that to do over long range...
> 
> Tanel.
> 
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> 
> > no not over the atlantic. its from DC to Boston.
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:39 PM
> >
> >
> > > 10GB over Atlantic?
> > >
> > > This does cost a lot. At least I assume so, why the heck am I sticking
> to
> > > 512kb in my home then?
> > >
> > > Tanel.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > >
> > >
> > > > i havent seen much about internet 2. i didnt realize there was
> anything
> > in
> > > > production yet. do you know where i can find more info on it?
> > > > 2.3 GBs isnt really that much for a connect anymore. its not that
> > > expensive
> > > > to get 10GB connections or more.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > We've been talking of Grid computing here since either late 1999
> or
> > > > early
> > > > > 2000.  The computing for our main experiment was designed before the
> > > Grid
> > > > > was contemplated.  Still we have implemented some of the middleware
> > > > needed,
> > > > > and build methods of authentication and authorization, and
> > participated
> > > in
> > > > > Grid experiments. We have also been pushing the ability to transfer
> > > large
> > > > > amounts of data.  The latest effort: 2.3 GB per second between the
> > local
> > > > > internet hub and Geneva Switzerland over Internet 2.  This is vital
> to
> > > > make
> > > > > the Grid work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, you'll probably have huge amounts of data coming in when CERN
> > gets
> > > > > their large hadron collider online in 2007 ;)
> > > > > Btw, AFAIK, they're using Oracle...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tanel.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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