Mladen
I'm dubious whether Oracle will make much money from this one. Maybe
someone with better connections to the exam can clarify that one. The payoff
on anything is the amount of revenue minus the cost to create. If fewer
people take the Masters, then the revenue may not offset the cost.
I would propose an alternative theory. Was the Masters created in
response to criticism of the OCP? Many people have savaged the OCP because
it doesn't mean you are an expert. But did Oracle ever consider it a stamp
of expertise or merely a certificate of qualification? Is it possible that
in response to the criticism, Oracle, ever eager to please the customer,
created a true qualification of expertise (Masters)?
Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Well, let's look at it from the purely commercial point of view:
1) Is it likely that my company will ever foot the bill for masters exam?
Me thinks not. Even OCP was frowned upon, because it was looked upon as
acquiring a technical certification that will make it easier for me to
leave the company. Justifiedly so. Masters exam would be totally out of
the question.
2) Is it likely that I pay for the exam myself as I did with OCP? Nope. I'd
have to take vacation to be on those two courses, I'd have to pay
exorbitant
amount of money for courses and exams, which makes it highly unlikely
that
I ever will do so, unless I win the lottery.
So, what's going to happen? It is likely that this certification is the
latest
cash cow for the Oracle Corp. because the OCP has worn out a bit. The way it
is
described, there is simply no possible market for this. If they want to make
money,
they'll have to offer it to the general public the usual way, through
Thompson Learning
or some other education mass marketing organization. That means that the
success rate
will have to be around 80%, the price will go down, as well as the meaning
or
significance of the course. Nope, I believe that I can satisfy the HR drones
with OCP and that I don't need to invest few grands into something that will
either be very short lived or become yet another meaningless paper and be
replaced by the "oracle hypermaster to the fifth degree" or "oracle jedi" in
two years or so. Who will acquire it? Oracle employees and owners of the
small
consulting companies, in order to improve their marketability. Not being one
of them, I'll do what I usually do: sit back and have a good laugh.
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Funny, I found my cost (free) was acceptable ... :)
Pete
"Controlling developers is like herding cats."
Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
"Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.
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Pete Sharman scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
> Just to clarify, the "old" Oracle Masters was only an indication that
> you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no
> test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The
> "new" Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue.
all true, but still priced out of line for many of us that would like to
take it and would find it useful.
>
>
> Pete
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA.
"Remember automatic weapons are a good thing."
me ;-)
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