Just to clarify, the "old" Oracle Masters was only an indication that you had attended a series of relevant training courses. There was no test, no measure of how well you could perform the role of a DBA. The "new" Oracle Masters definitely addresses that issue.
Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA. -----Original Message----- Ron Rogers Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have a certificate suitable for framing that states that I am a "Database Administrator Oracle 7 Oracle Master". Does this new Oracle Master negate my current "Oracle Master" certification? Is there and upgrade path available? Does it really matter? Every thing that I have accomplished I have done for myself. I use the tests as a yard stick against what I feel I want to accomplish. Does it matter that I have one, or two, or three, or four "suitable for framing" papers on the wall? With only a few years to go before I retire for the second time, I think that I will concentrate my efforts on my grand kids rather that getting paper for my walls. Ron mª¿ªm >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/03 08:20AM >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > It's too bad. It seems like it would be fun. What for? Make the employer shell out another BIG bunch of notes? To get a piece of paper that says on that date and with that hardware one could perform a backup and a restore? What does that say about the ability to lead a group of developers, or design the strategy for database access or solve a really nasty performance problem without forcing re-development or re-tooling? Or any of a million other tasks truly knowledgeable people get asked to perform? No wonder TK doesn't want to talk about it: it's laughable, and he prides himself in being a serious expert. The single fact the masters was created is the perfect admission at long last the OCP was nothing but a sham. Everyone knows it, some just insist on continuing the good old PC stuff (go with the flow, let it ride, etc). It is the simple truth: its value as a "certification" was and always will be nill. That the masters is being sold as the new "be-all-end-all" is even more demeaning. > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:20 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > So, it's nothing like OCP where you get the certification when you spew out > certain amount of the green stuff? I wonder how long will it take before > seeing > oracle masters who don't know how to take a hot backup. They'll be able to take a hot backup, rest assured. With milk and two sugars, please. Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Sharman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
