I wouldn't be too sure about that. At least here in Canada everything job related you produce while employed belongs to the employer. The "in my own time" part opens a grey area, but if it is very job related and contains or is related to information obtained on the job I don't think you've got a leg to stand on.
As a consultant I had a lawyer draw up an amendment that specifically retains my rights on anything I produce that is not specifically tied to the client's competitiveness - most of my work is in administering and tuning Oracle, Peoplesoft, or related middleware and is therefore generic. Otherwise everything I create under the contract is automatically property of the client.


At 04:14 PM 10/25/2003, you wrote:
is that copyright thing something unique to Australia? I dont think they can
claim that in the US unless you sign some documents first.
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> Howard's response is below. Hopefully this makes things clearer for > those who are still interested. > > > I worked for Oracle for 4 years, producing my own stuff in my > own time, to elaborate on questions that perplexed me, and > about which I would often get asked by Oracle course students > -because the "official" material either didn't cover it, > covered it badly, or just plain mis-informed. > > Oracle claimed copyright on the lot, so I had to remove the > material (Lydian Third is a site which copied the lot first, > and despite repeated requests still hasn't removed it). > > In June this year, I asked for permission to have a website > again, offering to have all material and content vetted by > anyone Oracle cared to choose for the job, before it went up. > They refused. I also asked for permission to stay at home when I wasn't > training, so that I could do research on Oracle matters. They > refused that too. > > In August, I therefore resigned. I finished work *for* Oracle > on October 6th. I had two weeks of leisure, and now I > contract back to Oracle, teaching much as before. Only this > time, I get to write my own material, and when I'm not > training, I can stay at home and do real research. > > I was never sacked by Oracle. > > Regards > HJR

Wolfgang Breitling
Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA
Centrex Consulting Corporation
http://www.centrexcc.com


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