No the copyright thing isn't unique to Australia. In the UK (I have the advantage of being married to an Intellectual Property lawyer) then broadly anything that you produce that is in the course of your employment would by default belong to your employer and not to you. We both suspect that in the UK someone who was employed to provide training and education in Oracle would also find that any training and education stuff they themselves produced would belong to their employer. It may or may not be different if they were employed as, say a developer. I would be amazed if the same wasn't true in the US, which is after all the land that can patent clicking :(.
Niall > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ryan > Sent: 25 October 2003 23:14 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: What happened to Howard Rogers ? > > > is that copyright thing something unique to Australia? I dont > think they can claim that in the US unless you sign some > documents first. > ----- Original Message ----- > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:39 PM > > > > Howard's response is below. Hopefully this makes things clearer for > > those who are still interested. > > > > > > I worked for Oracle for 4 years, producing my own stuff in my own > > time, to elaborate on questions that perplexed me, and > about which I > > would often get asked by Oracle course students -because the > > "official" material either didn't cover it, covered it > badly, or just > > plain mis-informed. > > > > Oracle claimed copyright on the lot, so I had to remove the > material > > (Lydian Third is a site which copied the lot first, and despite > > repeated requests still hasn't removed it). > > > > In June this year, I asked for permission to have a website again, > > offering to have all material and content vetted by anyone Oracle > > cared to choose for the job, before it went up. They > refused. I also > > asked for permission to stay at home when I wasn't > training, so that I > > could do research on Oracle matters. They refused that too. > > > > In August, I therefore resigned. I finished work *for* Oracle on > > October 6th. I had two weeks of leisure, and now I contract back to > > Oracle, teaching much as before. Only this time, I get to > write my own > > material, and when I'm not training, I can stay at home and do real > > research. > > > > I was never sacked by Oracle. > > > > Regards > > HJR > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Niall Litchfield > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send > > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Ryan > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may also send the HELP command for other > information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Niall Litchfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
