Btw, if you configure controlfile autobackup on, the controlfile is
automatically backed up during any physical database structure change, e.g.
adding a datafile, etc.

The file is backed up to $ORACLE_HOME/dbs or $OH/database (depending on
platfoem) by default. You just be monitoring these directories in case
you're making physical changes often in your database.

Tanel.

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> I believe that an 'alter database backup controlfile to trace' loses the
> RMAN data stored in the control files if you're not using a repository (if
I
> remember right from RF's book).
>
> Since we're not using a repository, we've got controlfile autobackup on
(in
> 9i use 'configure controlfile autobackup on').  We dump these disk copies
> via filesystem backups as a safety measure.  We also do a backup database,
> archivelogs, and then control (but all in one step; I'm not sure I'm clear
> on the reason for separating them into three backup sets)....
>
> Rich
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:35 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: full recovery
> >
> >
> > AK,
> >
> > First, your normal backup should backup your database in the following
> > order:
> >
> > Database, archivelogs and then control file.  I actually do
> > this in three
> > separate Rman steps.  This is so that the most recent control file is
> > backups up after all of the data.  This allows your to perform an
> > incoimplete-recovery-restore to as late a time as possible.
> > Also, consider
> > adding a database trigger that, upon startup, perform an
> > "alter database
> > backup controlfile to trace;"  Keep a copy of this trace file
> > someplace safe
> > as a sanity check.  You could use it to recreate your
> > controlfiles if all
> > else fails.
> >
> > Your recovery steps are as follows:
> >
> > 1. restore oracle software from tape.
> > 2. restore config files ( init.ora , listener. ora ).
> > 3. startup instance with nomount.
> > 4. run Rman to restore the control file from tape.
> > 5. Alter database mount
> > 6. run Rman to restore database files
> > 7. alter database open resetlogs.
> > 8. perform a brand-new Rman backup (database, logs & controlfile)
> >
> > turn the system back to the users (with many back-pats from
> > management).
> >
> > You should be testing this on a regular basis.
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Tom Mercadante
> > Oracle Certified Professional
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 2:15 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Here is a scenerio :
> > I am taking full database backup everynight using rman to tape . which
> > includes archive logs and control file. Not using
> > catalog.Also have a backup
> > of complete file system including oracle software and
> > configuration files (
> > init.ora , listener.ora etc.. )
> > I lost the host on a particular day at 12 am afternoon. Now I want to
> > restore this db to latest possible time to another host (
> > with same name )
> >
>
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