Hi!

It was only the SCN <-> time mapping informatin which is aged out after 5
days, but you still can use SCN-based flashback back to your oldest undo
record.

Tanel.

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> Others have mentioned it, but I just wanted to chime in to warn you to
warn
> your developers, that they will only have five days to use their frozen
> moment in time.  This is the limitation imposed by the scn table mentioned
> in Dan's post.  The reason I decided to chime in is that AFAIK, no
official
> Oracle documentation refers to this limitation.  This is just one of those
> odd things I wouldn't know, if it weren't for my association to this list.
>
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> Bellow, Bambi
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>
> Melanie --
>
> What's happening is that, in a write-intensive environment, the developers
> want to "freeze a moment in time" which can be used across developers and
> applications for testing to ensure consistent results.  The functionality
> may be expanded, in time, depending on how it works.  But from what I'm
> seeing, this seems to be the right tool for the job.
>
> Thanks, everyone, for your feedback.  In my book, this goes down as
Oracle's
> coolest feature since DECODE.
>
> Bambi.
>
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>
> Hi Bambi,
>
> I hate to sound repetitive, but, it depends.  :-)
>
> It depends on how far you want to flash back to.
>
> One of my clients was being audited last year by their
> parent company.
>
> I put in a retention period of about a week at a time.
>
> Without divulging much from my confidentiality
> agreement with them, we were really trying to figure
> out what certain users were doing within the company,
> and we provided proof of such.  Using the flashback
> query feature made this incredibly easy to do!
>
> Of course, you have to be careful with your UNDO
> segments, as you know.
>
> I didn't try going backwards for more than a week.
> That was all we needed at the time.
>
> I also turned this feature off once we were done.
>
> Other than UNDO segment growth, which I planned for in
> advance, I didn't have any problems with it.  And it
> made the task at hand incredibly easy.
>
> But, I wouldn't recommend putting it in place unless
> you really need it.
>
> My $0.02,
> Melanie
>
> --- "Bellow, Bambi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Folks!
> >
> > I got waylaid(?) when I got in this morning and
> > these user dudes were
> > talking about using flashbacks, and I was like
> > "Woah! Dudes! Let's just
> > chill on this for a couple of minutes".  So, I went
> > back to my desk and
> > checked out a cool article on it...
> >
> >
> http://www.oracle-base.com/Articles/9i/FlashbackQuery.asp
> >
> > And it looks like it's like, killer, yknow?  So, I
> > was thinking "well, we've
> > got sufficiently large undo segments for this, I
> > don't see a problem with
> > it" but that didn't sound terribly cool, and anyway,
> > before I go willy-nilly
> > saying this is the niftiest thing Oracle's done in
> > years, I thought I would
> > run it by you guys and see if anybody out there is
> > running with flashbacks
> > and whether there have been any problems with it.
> >
> > Yer far-out pal,
> > Bambi.
> >
> >
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