I like the idea of setting the client info. The consensus on the other stuff is that's just the way it is.
thanks, steve ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 11:34 PM > > On 2003.11.29 22:49, Steve Perry wrote: > > I hope somebody on the list can help me out with this. > > > > All of our 3-tier apps are architected with a schema owner (owns all objects > > used by an application) and application user (no create privs, but it does > > have full dml privs to the schema owner objects). > > On the web side, connection pooling is setup with 10 connections logged in > > (all as the application user). > > When users connect, the application reads some active directory keys that > > tell if the user is a reader, dml user or admin user (all privs). > > > > I don't feel the application should be managing security and I'd like to > > take that responsibility away. > > The 10 identical connections logged into the database bothers me too. > > > > I'd like to make it work similar to our 2-tier apps where we use roles, > > assign them to a user and they connect individually. We don't have OID setup > > and I imagine that would solve this. Short of that, is there any other way > > to work around having the 10 identical connections logging in and having the > > application maintaining security? Is there another way of assigning the > > security? > > > > I don't have any web development experience and I thought I'd check here > > first to see how others deal with this. I hope somebody else has worked > > this out at their shop. > > > > I'm not sure if the answers will change, but it's an all M$ shop, except for > > Oracle. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Steve > > > > Steve, I am not a .NOT user or admirer but I think that all security should be in one place because > then it is non-conflicting and more easily controlled. If the business decision is made that this place is > LDAP, then you don't have much choice. > For the sake of the DBA staff, you can adopt a standard mandating that every application should call > DBMS_APPLICATION_INFO.SET_CLIENT_INFO immediately after it connects to the database. > Client info information is visible from V$SESSION so you can use alternative means of determining > sid and serial#. What does seem as an objectionable practice is granting "admin" authority through > LDAP. Only DBA should have DBA role and nobody else. Hopefully, this "admin" role granted through > the active directory does not mean "DBA", but only "application admin". Application admins are helpful > people who know the application and administer certain parts of it. They can take the burden of > mundane tasks like granting & revoking roles as well as creating users away from the DBA and > have him working on more important tasks like helping developers, documenting best practices, > planning disaster recovery, setting standards, planning upgrades and tuning buffer cache hit ratio. > In other words, everything seems to be hunky dory except the posibiliity that the DBA role is granted > away lightheartedy. You are a DBA and as a DBA, you took the oath of enforcing the first DBA commandment > which reads: > Thou shalt not have other DBAs but me. > > No ifs, no buts, no active directories here. > > > > -- > Mladen Gogala > Oracle DBA > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Mladen Gogala > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Steve Perry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
