Wolfgang,

The OS has always provided microsecond data to the Oracle kernel (see
the 'man gettimeofday' and 'man getrusage'). It's only in release 9 that
the Oracle kernel stopped truncating the data at the centisecond digit
(by doing an integer division of 10000).

Oracle gets elapsed times by comparing pairs of gettimeofday() calls
(truss to find out for yourself). The e=40us is actually accurate to
within +/-1us (not counting measurement intrusion effect). The c value
is potentially way off, as I explained in the other note.


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-----Original Message-----
Wolfgang Breitling
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

In Oracle 9, Oracle tries to measure times in microseconds (as opposed
to 
centiseconds pre-9). However, many Systems only slice time far coarser
than 
that so Oracle has to fake it to some degree and that faking may be 
different between cpu time and elapsed time. Take your cpu times for 
example. They are all 10000 microseconds which is exactly 10000/1000000
= 
0.01 = 1 centiseconds. That's a bit too much of a coincidence for me.
Who 
knows where Oracle get the elapsed times from. I wouldn't put too much 
faith in the accuracy of an purported elapsed time of 40 microseconds. 
Unless we are getting at least into the milliseconds range I would
regard 
all elapsed times as rounding errors.

At 02:09 PM 12/2/2003, you wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I haven't read Cary's book yet (although it's already waiting on my
>bookshelf), but I think CPU time c is measured in timeslice steps
(100ms)
>and elapsed time e is taken from system timer or smth like that. Others
will
>know better :)
>
>Tanel.
>
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>
>
> > Reading Cary's book I understand that c and e are
> > measured via different system calls (haven't truss'ed
> > [well tusc'ed] them yet - I am on HP-UX 11.11), but
> > would anybody know what the reasonable upper limit of
> > c-e might be?
> >
> > I am looking at the trace file where c is more than
> > two orders of magnitude greater than e, which make me
> > wonder if I a have some anomaly on my system
> >
> > Some examples:
> >
> > EXEC
> >
#98:c=10000,e=433,p=0,cr=2,cu=2,mis=0,r=1,dep=1,og=4,tim=1777312113968
> >
> > EXEC
> >
#110:c=10000,e=390,p=0,cr=1,cu=3,mis=0,r=1,dep=1,og=4,tim=1777312181650
> >
> > PARSE
> >
#103:c=10000,e=40,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=1,og=4,tim=1777314524922
> >
> > Oracle 9.2.0.4.0 on HP-UX 11.11
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Boris Dali.
> >
> >
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