Hi,

Guys, in this case can we chill (in a friendly way)
about the naive questions. At least her company has a
job posting for Senior Oracle DBA. E.g.:

http://pella.kenexa.com/pellav4/newhr/jobdesc.asp?ID=1194

Maybe they really do need help? Sorry, their web site
is really slow, too. ;-)

HTH.

Regards,

Mike Thomas


--- Nuno Pinto do Souto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > Shrake, Jolene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I'm surprised at these responses.  I'm asking what
> sql statement most
> > people use to identify tables that need
> reorganization because of
> > "holes".
> 
> You don't have to be.  There is plenty of material
> available today online
> that demonstrates the futility of "religious"
> (meaning: dictated by dogma)
> reorganizations.
> 
> > We had an Oracle consultant here and he uses 
> 
> A con-sultant, perheaps?
> 
> > What sql statement is used by others?
> 
> None.  There is no such thing as a statement that
> will pinpoint
> a need for a reorg.  Unless you can prove to
> yourself that reorganizing
> any given table will improve anything in your
> system, then just going
> through the motions because there is a "hole" is
> useless.
> "Holes" are not necessarily the same as "disasters".
> 
> If you are using a reasonably recent version of
> Oracle (something you
> should ALWAYS mention upfront is the version you are
> running),
> then you can get all the information you need from
> the data in 
> the dictionary as well as the statistics info.  
> 
> And guess what:  that is also all the information
> Oracle itself needs and uses 
> to work around any potential problems "holes" might
> have caused 
> in the past.
> 
> Bottom line:  only reorganize if you have a specific
> reason, purpose and 
> target for doing so.  Just doing it because a
> con-sultant's SQL statement 
> says so, is turning yourself into a cookie-cutter
> DBA.  
> Which may give your boss a very warm feeling about
> your position, 
> but achieves preciously nothing in real terms.
> 
> Cheers
> Nuno Souto
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