Dear Peter;
I was sorry to hear about your daughter getting all the fingerprint stuff
even though she just had to move to a lounge across the way. I thought about
it, and I think that the reason things are so tight are: 1) Detroit had some
terrorists they arrested and 2) Singapore is next door to the Southeast Asian
hot spot for terrorists- i.e. Indonesia. Everyone gets their luggage searched
now; since I have access to chemicals at UCF, my suitcase gets swabbed for
residue, even in a domestic airport. My friends who flew to Israel used to
wonder why it always took so long to board an Air-Al flight because of the
security, but now everyone has to endure it for our safety. Beats a broken neck
from a bomb blast, lol.
US colleges are $$$$ - Canadian colleges are $$ and give you the same
education, but you have to go to "13th grade", as the US. students at McGill
call it and not straight to your major.
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Peter O'B wrote
>Guido, I agree with every word of your "Re Carson's philosophical question"
>in V6 #278.
>
>Let me tell you something. My daughter is at University in Canada. In order
>to get there from Singapore she flies to Tokyo, changes planes, then flies
>to Detroit, changes planes, then flies on to Canada.
>
>International Agreements state that airline-passengers who spend less than a
>minimum time (6 hours in most countries) in transit at airports are deemed
>not to have entered the country. My daughter doesn't officially enter Japan;
>she just waits in the transit lounge until her flight is called. Similarly,
>she doesn't officially enter the USA, but the practise is that she is forced
>off the plane in Detroit, then forced to go through US immigration because
>the transit lounge is on the wrong side of the Immigration counter. She has
>done this trip 4 times now; on 3 occasions her bags have been opened, and on
>one occasion she was subjected to a body search. All this without
>(officially) entering in the country !!
>
>She has now been informed that she will be FINGERPRINTED next time her plane
>touches down in Detroit, unless she applies in advance for a visa, which
>will also involve fingerprinting & extraction of other (unstated) biometric
>data. In civilised countries this is what they do to criminals when they get
>taken off to jail, not to airline passengers moving from one plane to
>another.
>
>No wonder there is so much resentment.
>
>
Peter, I know, I have been in the US many times. The US people should
be better informed about the politics of their administration. If they
were, they would be surprised that 9_11 (which was a very serious and
despicable crime) did not happen earlier. And when the politic don't
change, it will happen again.
Regards
Guido
Dr. Guido J. Braem
PS. I bet the two of us are making it to the CIA blacklist
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Surely this is very upsetting to both yourself and you daughter-- I empathize
with your situation as I had similar problems with my boyfriend (who is not a
US citizen)
Is there not a direct flight to Canada from Tokyo? I've flown several times
on QANTAS straight into Canada from the Pacific and I know JAL must have
flights---I believe they have one from Tokyo to Toronto.
Wishing for a better alternative for you and yours,
(And better times ahead for all of us)
Terri Lewin
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