David, I agree totally with your comments. I have been growing orchids for 40 years and have learnt a lot from peers, literature and actually growing many various genera. It always pains me to hear NON orchid growers ( ie people from the Gardening field ) air their ignorance when it comes to orchids. Unfortunately, this ignorance seems to prevail in some orchid growers as well. I have yet to read ANY decent argument put up by any of the Taxonomist knockers on this list as to WHY any particular taxonomic statement may be incorrect on any orchid. It appears that "Thou shall believe what I want to believe", be the case. There have been or still are people on this list with great knowledge, formal or otherwise that could add to discussions on taxon' topics but I fear choose not to because of the crap they may receive in return. The one thing that I will through in is that there is the possibility that comments lodged by some Formally educated people with very little practical experience in growing hybrid orchids AND studying the particular characteristics that certain plants pass on to their progeny shows a distinct weakness and they should really take advice on that area from experienced growers before falling into that 'ignorance area'. ROY LEE
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